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Happy Dancer
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There's a sort of internal sense of when something is inconsistent or when there is a logical contradiction, also an internal sense of when something is congruent or incongruent with a system (or previous experiences). I go into my head, detach, and try to look at things objectively.
Does this "internal sense" sort of feel like intuition? Could you describe it in more detail?
I suspect there's a strong parallel between Ti and Fi, here: Fi gets an internal sense that something is "wrong" or "right", but not in a logical or objective sense.
You know, this somewhat relates to my theory that in order to use one function you must also be using the opposite of it to some degree. So to use Ti you must also use Fe and vice versa. You can't perceive the patterns behind the details (Ni) unless you observe the outside appearance to some degree (Se).
Just a theory I play around with in my head.
This is very close to what Jung is saying, but the opposite function is being used "unconsciously" for the most part, thus in your Ni example, it grabs (in an unconsciously selective way) some details from the environment as anchor points. An analogy might be being given three points and told to fit a quadratic equation to it or a circle on it. A corollary is that Ni is looking for certain kinds of "Se points", and can miss key information that way: e.g., it's really a cubic equation and there are 4 points to fit, not the expected quadratic.
But there is another piece of the function pairing that is more conscious, and which I believe contributes to mistyping of oneself and others. The dom and aux functions work as a pair, and, I believe, the tert and inf functions work as a pair. As an INTJ, I think abstractly (Ni) about objective things (Te), but my feelings (Fi) seem more attached to immediate environment and sensations (Se).
This ends up messing up typing because, for example, NiTe and TiNe often seem to do the same kinds of things in the same kinds of ways, and the differences come out only when you watch the different types argue about something abstract and technically complex. For example, INTJs can easily become convinced that they can "do Ti" too, especially if they take one of Nardi's cognitive function tests. Similarly, an ENTP might easily believe that he can "do Ni" as well as Ne: he just focuses more on getting the right answer. But really, that's just Ti, not Ni.
I think we can feel the difference between the e and the i, but we don't so easily notice that we're switching between the Ti and the Ne (or the Ni and the Te) when we switch between the i and the e.