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That made me lol so hard. Anyway, I like Hitler, lol"Oh my, I am so sensitive to conflict, I better start a World War...?"
That made me lol so hard. Anyway, I like Hitler, lol"Oh my, I am so sensitive to conflict, I better start a World War...?"
Concerning Hitler being a poor strategist....well that can be said of the entire German high command actually. That was one major pitfall of the German military in both World Wars, they had brilliant taciticans for commanders(like Ludendorf) who were also shitty strategists. I forget who, but one WWI German general admitted he never even read Clausewitz before in his life.
Hitler was quite competent as a commander-in-chief, as he demonstrated earlier in the war. In the dispute concerning how to strike France, Hitler wisely dismissed the General Staff's rehash of the old Schliffen Plan in favor of von Manstein's bold strike through the Ardennes forrest. This was key to the German victory in 1940.
It's generally agreed that his insistence of no retreat before Moscow helped save the German army from complete destruction at the hands of Red Army counter-attacks in 1941. It can even argued that he helped save the German southern flank from complete annihiliation in early 1943 by having it retreat, but with the terrible cost of abandoning the 9th Army at Stalingrad.
So no, I wouldn't say he was a complete dumbass at warfare, but he certainly wasn't "the greatest commander in history" as Nazi prograganda stated.
http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/385269-post112.html
"One of these ideas, prevalent in the U.S. Army today, is that Prussia and Germany's military success sprang largely from the efforts of staff officers who studied warfare intellectually and rationally and made it more a science than an art through the development of what is generally called Auftragstaktik. In this view, the general staff laid out the parameters of an operational plan under whose guidelines field officers operated with a maximum flexibility to achieve the larger goals. Citino finds repeated examples of German field commanders working at cross purposes with overall command objectives and sometimes each other. He concludes that it is much more accurate to assume that the German way of war was based on attacking the enemy at the first reasonable moment with scant regard to prior planning. For Citino, Germany's officer corps' operational behavior was governed more by an aggressive offensive ethos than any sort of intellectual and rational planning. Far from being characterized by a perfect balance of staff planning and control and operational flexibility, the German strategy often involved no real coordination of subordinate commanders which, Citino notes, was unthinkable in the days before modern communication technologies. Many of these field commanders violated orders from superiors in order to push more aggressively, as demonstrated by Heinz Guderian in France in 1940, Hermann von Francois in East Prussia in 1914 and Friedrich Wilhelm von Seydlitz in the 1700s. Indeed, Citino states in his conclusion that the current understanding of Auftragstaktik simply was not a component of Germany's military history."
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apparently the "official" listing of hitler by the MBTI company is as ENFJ, but the more i read, the less he seems like a J.
though, arguably, none of us would exist as we are if it weren't for hitler
I suggested the combination ENFP 7w8 because it is produce a strong Te user and can be artistic in the same time.
Also Hitler was enthusiastic and rebellious, which fit type 7.
I cant see Hitler as an ENFP, with other than this combination.
Chloee said:maybe ENFJ coounterphobic 6, 6 can look P-like even when J
August Kubizek said:The most outstanding trait in my friend’s character was, as I had experienced myself, the unparalleled consistency in everything that he had said and did. There was in his nature something firm, inflexible, immovable, obstinately rigid, which manifested itself in his profound seriousness and was at the bottom of all his other characteristics. Adolf simply could not change his mind or his nature.
Chloee said:you think "if i wasn't in that coffee place 2 years ago, March 3th at 6:15, i wouldnt run into my friend Mike, who wouldnt 2 hours later introduce me to Jennifer, ....my life would be so different now if I was somewhere else on that day and time, who knows what i've missed " - I think like this all the time hehe
--John Lukacs, the Hitler of History, pg. 68, 69-70, 71, 72"We have seen that maturity came to Hitler relatively late - a condition that led Heer to write that throughout his life there remained something incomplete in his personality...it might even be argued that this astonishing man, with all his talents and self-discipline, never really achieved maturity - by which I mean the existence of that deep-seated private judgement whereby a person comes to terms with the relationship of himself and his circumstances (a recognition that is not necessarily identical with his view of his destiny, or with a sense of that resignation which comes with age....Peter Kleist, one of Ribbentrop's satellites, wrote in his memoirs: "I had the oppurtunity to study his face carefully. It has amazed me because of the multiplicity of expressions it contained...Photography, by selecting only a single moment out of context, could show only one aspect, thereby giving a false impression of the duplicity or multiplicity of being which lay behind this image." He added: "I tried to find some explanation for the hypnotic effect of those eyes without arriving at any explanation."...
...Schramm's remarks about the ambivalence of Hitler's expressions: "The friend of women, children and animals - this was one face of Hitler neither acted nor feigned, but entirely geniune. There was, however, a second face which he did not show to his table companions, though it was no less geniune."
One element in his character was that of the artist. He was a talented draftsman and painter, and a potential architect...A bohemian Hitler was, as Speer often remarked, very evident in his working habits - untill about 1942 he rose late, ate late, and frittered away many hours. Speer commented, "I have often asked myself often: when did he really work?" (This when he was the most powerful dictator in the world)....
...Hitler was a desperate man, while at the same time, he was a visionary of a new, heroic, pagan, and scientific world. He was an unhappy child and an unhappy adolescent, spurred by shame and resentment, surely after 1918...He was also a strong man; and a fundamental source of his strength was hatred. Yet his hatreds did not coagulate untill he was thirty years old. Before that he remained a boy; at thirty, he became a man suffused with vengence. And what is vengence but the idea of causing suffering in order to heal one's own suffering? The German word for vengence is "Rache". There are few more threatening guttural words in the German language."