Costrin
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What are your reasons for disagreeing?
Well, it seems that Fi users are agreeing with me, so my views aren't completely unfounded. Elaboration to follow:
The definition of Fi is as follows.
Feeling: A cognitive unconscious disposition towards processing emotion.
Introversion: A cognitive unconscious disposition to be cognitively inspired by the inner life more than the external world.
What this simply means is that an introvert's mind unconsciously responds more easily to his own thoughts rather than entities outside of him (perhaps his observations of the external world).
Hence, Introverted Feeling is a tendency to process emotion in relation to the intrinsic content of the mind in question.
The tendency to emote leads a person to be interested in values as such a person is closely in tune with his likes and dislikes (personal values). An Introverted Feeler is in tune with the sentiments generated within himself (because they are generated within his mind they are concerned with his inner being more than the external world), hence he is intensely focused on his personal values (or strictly speaking how he feels) more than the community. (An Extroverted Feeler on the hand, whose sentiments are more concerned with the external world is more focused on the values of others and inevitably his values mirror those of others almost by default.)
I have a different definition of Fi. Fi is nearly the same as Ti. It builds a model of the universe, using information provided by Pe. The difference is that Fi assigns a subjective judgment also, based on how the piece of information makes the user feel. This is connected to other pieces of data, and a model is created.
Because Fi is simply a tendency to emote in relation to the inner life, it ipso facto lacks logical structure. (I anticipate some may remonstrate that there are logical Fi people in the world. I do not wish to deny that. However, they are logical not because of their Fi faculty but due to their competence with their Thinking faculty) Fi, unlike Fe that conforms to the rigid structure of the external world of values (therefore does not change easily, it changes in a manner akin to the whims of fashion, in small ways. We notice that significant traditions and values of the community rarely radically change, and hence neither does Fe for this reason.), has no solid foundation. It is founded on mere fleeting feelings. (There is no solid foundation because Fi in itself does not conceptualize feelings, it only processes them, hence there is nothing stopping Fi from going from one temporary passion to another.)
Here's where your problem seems to be. You think emotions are fleeting. This isn't true. Emotions are a response meant to move people towards positive things, and away from negative things. Purely a survival mechanism from an evolutionary standpoint. Therefore, it is possible to predict emotions. Whatever hurts the user evokes a negative emotional response, whatever aids the user evokes a positive emotional response. They are not random, it is in fact quite logical.
This is all recorded in the Fi users model. As more information is gathered and added to the model, it becomes more secure, much in the same way as a Ti model.
The Fi model is changed when a contradiction is discovered in it (in an entirely logical process).