I deserve all the hugs I can get.
Aww..
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Besides using humor: Hit, hit, hug and repeat.
I deserve all the hugs I can get.
Wow. That is positively repellant. :cringes:
:grumbles: ...compatible my arse...
iwakar doesn't like me anymore...
The mentality isn't seeking to win over someone else in that respect - it is seeking new grounds that is the aim. In all possibility, the ENTP probably didn't even realise the other person was stepped on in their eagerness for the new grounds.
Perhaps it is only when they grow older that the Ne is reined in by Ti and Fe more. They start to grow wiser, in picking what grounds to explore, and when to leave that shiny new thing alone too. Then the Ne is also used to sense how people are feeling, and they learn that people are fascinating in and of themselves. This slowdown in speed allows more depth, in personal reflection and growth inwards, not just outwards.
I read another thread about how ExxPs are likely to cheat etc, but personally, I've never been able to form deep connections with more than one person at a time. Any hit is taken deeply if it is from someone whose hugs I value.
If the ENTP cannot accept that, then it's probably just an immature one... in which case, the loss of your affection would hit it pretty badly. Poorly developed Fe fears abandonment.
Bah, rubbish! :ninja-hug: <---observe fabled ENTP hug (If we can't coerce them, we surprise them!)
I have not yet witnessed this stage of development as I've never knowingly encountered an ENTP post-30s. I look forward to it.
Agreed. I've witnessed this phenomenon in ENTPs, and all I can say is that ENTPs seem paradoxically the exception to this ExxP generalization.
This is enlightenment. It explains bizarre and turbulent relations with my younger brother.
It is not easy though. To consciously slow down. Mind works on so many things at once. I constantly have to self-arrest IRL, to explain what I mean, to think of how to say something / to think how others may take what I say differently, before I choose to say it/not. Sometimes I feel trapped / the mind is not able to get everything out. There are only very few people I feel completely able to let my mind be free with, IRL, online.
To outgrow this, both have to understand they are more fragile than they think they are. And independence comes not from never needing anyone, but in knowing who to trust, and knowing who to be vulnerable to. It is this realisation that you cannot function alone, which probably shifts the perception and is one of the primary drivers of personal growth and a reprioritization of values to put people they love up there as well, besides shiny new things.
"ENTPs love an audience" is commonly said. But I think few understand why.
It isn't because we love the sound of our own voices. But that, we find it difficult to see value in our own ideas/the worth/implementability of it, unless we have a mirror, i.e. another to bounce them off.
Frequently we may be spouting ideas, but it isn't a fact we are convinced of, though we may sound confident. Rather, an idea is more a means of engaging. So to be constantly brushed off is demoralising - the ideas are the extension of the person, and a brush off is basically a devaluing of the person itself.
Ergo the abandonment fears. Rejection of their thoughts make them feel that you do not want them too. It isn't just the loss of the audience. It is the loss of the mirror.
Don't be so caught off balance by a remark an ENTP makes about your character. A lot of the time it can be an attack on your character. It's an Fe thing, not an Ne thing. I've had some ESFjs (FeSi) make comments about my character, but mostly they were just attacking. It's always good to really think about whatever is said about your character cons and pros, just to make sure that they're not trying to trick you into believing what they say, so that they have control over you.
Do ENTPs and ESFJs get along? They seem like polar opposites.
I usually don't take the criticism as an attack. It's just jarring, initially. Especially since the ENTP is usually clueless that what they're saying could be insulting. They don't seem to throw much weight behind it though.
And, actually I don't usually feel so insulted by Fe. But I sometimes am annoyed by it, in large doses. It does feel more forceful - closer to attacking than Ne. My ESFJ coworker is always opportunistically poking fun at my ENTP boss, especially when the ENTP says something Fe-tarded. Do ENTPs and ESFJs get along? They seem like polar opposites.
Amen! I was hanging around one of my friends this weekend, and she's a pretty mellow person - she laughs, but doesn't always say much back. I end up talking a lot and making a lot of jokes, but by the end of the night I'm positively sick of myself. I'm starting to realize this - when I act this way, I'm not seeking attention solely for myself, I'm looking to engage someone. And when no one engages, I lose energy.
I usually don't take the criticism as an attack. It's just jarring, initially. Especially since the ENTP is usually clueless that what they're saying could be insulting. They don't seem to throw much weight behind it though.
And, actually I don't usually feel so insulted by Fe. But I sometimes am annoyed by it, in large doses. It does feel more forceful - closer to attacking than Ne. My ESFJ coworker is always opportunistically poking fun at my ENTP boss, especially when the ENTP says something Fe-tarded. Do ENTPs and ESFJs get along? They seem like polar opposites.
SiFe is the dual of the ENTP. FeSi however can be too intense a relationship for anything close to develop. I know that the intensity especilaly rings true when you have a Ti subtype ENTP and an Si subtype ESFJ. The two can usually read eachother almost instantly, and they tend to jump to conclusions around eachother in a heartbeat. Usually, as soon as my eyes meet theirs, I know what they are all about.
I popped her bubble by saying that I was married and I made her feel guilty. I needed to ward off the predator somehow.
You popped her bubble by lying?
You popped her bubble by lying?
So I did. I needed to ward off the predator somehow!
Gone off the dreamy idea of being stalked, have we?
Uber is like come here, now go away! Come here, go away! Repeat.
Prove it.