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I had a discussion with stypg awhile back about the other ENFPs I worked with. One male and one female, both early thirties and both more emo than me-although we all three have our emo moments.
He argued that perhaps male ENFPs more more emo stable than females? Or maybe that was me... Anyways, it was hard for me to counter in any way as I honestly know very few ENFPs in real life-or even NFs of any sort. I have been surrounded by NTs since started college, through grad school, and into my career. Once at work there were some "wierd" people-oh wait those are really just not NTs..hehehe
Now I work with about 40% NTs and 40% ISTJs. Very, very few NFs at all.
Until recently.
We now have three ENFP men in fairly high levels of leadership so I thought i would jot down my observations on them so far as I think the common matra is that ENFPs dont make it into leadership positions.
1-mid thirties, finance/marketing background, moderate Te user but balanced with some NeFi to make him seem sweet, practical, outgoing and very competent. He worked in our industry at another company, just finished an MBA and does portfolio management. The othe day he walked past my dorr, glanced in and immediately asked if I was doing okay-actally no it was a long day. The briefest glance told him this. Also when no one was looking we decided we are going to build a lake out back to sail my mothafuckin boat on. Cause I'm onna boat...Shhhh, NeFi was sneaking out that day....
2-Mid fifties. Kinda dorky and goofy. Very good understanding of our industry. Is in strategic marketing position. He excels at understanding the "people points" of the organizations he interacts with-they tend to be large and complex. He understands who to talk to and who they influence the companies. Very Big NeTe thinker-superb complement to 9/9. He also shows a tendency to mentor and give advice. However he can be very Te heavy and authoritarian at times. It can be odd to get a nice polite joking email, then see the Te switch come on calling you to task. Very direct and straightforward.
3. VP of RnD-an engineer-mid fifties. Also a bit goofy and silly. Actually more NeFi however he may be holding Te in check. Long history of RnD/Marketing work, particularly in teaching others how to bridge the customer-marketing-engineering interface. Very smart guy, very aware. The first thing he did was start asking others about his people. However he also comes across very open and very honest, interested in making sure his folks have the chance to grow in thier careers-but can very quicky identify the strategic gaps in the few problems he has faced-and call you on why you did not identify those gaps..
4. former Big C. A very odd ENFP. My ENTP had to call it as I could not figure it out. This man had a very weak Te. Very poor planning skillls and understanding of operations. Not strategic in the Te sense at all. However he could read and manipulate others profoundly well. Very good at organizing a structure of people to accomplish goals and understanding others strengths and weaknesses. He had a history at his previous company and was well known. People were terrified of him... He seemed so nice...not in a smooth. stylish tert Fe way, but nice with Fi...nice until he had to nicely let you know you were fired, nicely help you pack your stuff, nicely walk you to your car and pat you on your shoulder...
Just thought I would share as the sterotypes do get old and these guys are interesting to watch...
He argued that perhaps male ENFPs more more emo stable than females? Or maybe that was me... Anyways, it was hard for me to counter in any way as I honestly know very few ENFPs in real life-or even NFs of any sort. I have been surrounded by NTs since started college, through grad school, and into my career. Once at work there were some "wierd" people-oh wait those are really just not NTs..hehehe
Now I work with about 40% NTs and 40% ISTJs. Very, very few NFs at all.
Until recently.
We now have three ENFP men in fairly high levels of leadership so I thought i would jot down my observations on them so far as I think the common matra is that ENFPs dont make it into leadership positions.
1-mid thirties, finance/marketing background, moderate Te user but balanced with some NeFi to make him seem sweet, practical, outgoing and very competent. He worked in our industry at another company, just finished an MBA and does portfolio management. The othe day he walked past my dorr, glanced in and immediately asked if I was doing okay-actally no it was a long day. The briefest glance told him this. Also when no one was looking we decided we are going to build a lake out back to sail my mothafuckin boat on. Cause I'm onna boat...Shhhh, NeFi was sneaking out that day....
2-Mid fifties. Kinda dorky and goofy. Very good understanding of our industry. Is in strategic marketing position. He excels at understanding the "people points" of the organizations he interacts with-they tend to be large and complex. He understands who to talk to and who they influence the companies. Very Big NeTe thinker-superb complement to 9/9. He also shows a tendency to mentor and give advice. However he can be very Te heavy and authoritarian at times. It can be odd to get a nice polite joking email, then see the Te switch come on calling you to task. Very direct and straightforward.
3. VP of RnD-an engineer-mid fifties. Also a bit goofy and silly. Actually more NeFi however he may be holding Te in check. Long history of RnD/Marketing work, particularly in teaching others how to bridge the customer-marketing-engineering interface. Very smart guy, very aware. The first thing he did was start asking others about his people. However he also comes across very open and very honest, interested in making sure his folks have the chance to grow in thier careers-but can very quicky identify the strategic gaps in the few problems he has faced-and call you on why you did not identify those gaps..
4. former Big C. A very odd ENFP. My ENTP had to call it as I could not figure it out. This man had a very weak Te. Very poor planning skillls and understanding of operations. Not strategic in the Te sense at all. However he could read and manipulate others profoundly well. Very good at organizing a structure of people to accomplish goals and understanding others strengths and weaknesses. He had a history at his previous company and was well known. People were terrified of him... He seemed so nice...not in a smooth. stylish tert Fe way, but nice with Fi...nice until he had to nicely let you know you were fired, nicely help you pack your stuff, nicely walk you to your car and pat you on your shoulder...
Just thought I would share as the sterotypes do get old and these guys are interesting to watch...