EJCC
The Devil of TypoC
- Joined
- Aug 29, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- ESTJ
- Enneagram
- 1w9
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/so
Found this description today and it resonated a lot with me:
I'd mentioned other times on the forum that, while E1 rule-evangelism can come across as arrogant, that it really isn't, and has nothing to do with us as individuals. No one ever seemed convinced, so this description was validating.
Questions for other 1s (just to begin discussion):
1) Do you relate?
2) If not, how would you describe the experience of rule-evangelism (or whatever else you'd call it)?
3) Is this 1 in general, instead of just social 1? (because that was my instinct (ha ha) upon reading it)
Things I'm also wondering:
1) how this self-erasure relates to that of, let's say, type 9
2) how and why type 1, apparently a self-erasure type, disintegrates to 4, which has an opposite relationship with the self (building an ideal one)
enneagramcentral.com said:SELF-ERASURE LEADS TO OVERIDENTIFICATION WITH A TRADITION
Social Ones speak for the moral tradition. Their identification with the social tradition is their psychological compensation for their loss of self-awareness, what many writers and teachers call letting the self go to sleep, so they don't see any difference between what they think and what the tradition teaches. There is no "self" opinion, there is only the correct teaching of the tradition. This has a tendency to lead to self-righteousness because it is not the individual who is right, it is the tradition that is right.
I'd mentioned other times on the forum that, while E1 rule-evangelism can come across as arrogant, that it really isn't, and has nothing to do with us as individuals. No one ever seemed convinced, so this description was validating.
Questions for other 1s (just to begin discussion):
1) Do you relate?
2) If not, how would you describe the experience of rule-evangelism (or whatever else you'd call it)?
3) Is this 1 in general, instead of just social 1? (because that was my instinct (ha ha) upon reading it)
Things I'm also wondering:
1) how this self-erasure relates to that of, let's say, type 9
2) how and why type 1, apparently a self-erasure type, disintegrates to 4, which has an opposite relationship with the self (building an ideal one)