Orangey, while I agree that the social filters of Elfboy need adjusting, your intuiting of his motivations isn't exactly very politically correct either. He's said that that is hardly his intention, and it would be decent of you to accept that statement as the truth unless you have some irrefutable proof of the opposite.
I've provided my argument, and I've stated why it doesn't really matter what he says his intentions were. If he was not intentionally seeking to do what I've characterized him as doing, so much the worse for him. It just means he was unintentionally being obtuse. All that aside, though, I do not believe that I owe him any special consideration because, according to you, he's some excitable, socially 'tarded ENFP releasing his burning curiosity. Or are you really suggesting that I lay off because you think you can relate to him?
1st bold: it's wonderful you want to excercise your NF side and read between the lines, but please do so correctly if you're intending on doing so, especially when you are using it to accuse someone.
When I said "isn't that something you, as an NF, should know?" I was making fun of you, not really suggesting that reading between the lines is an NF thing to do. Oh dear.
2nd bold: that's exactly right, having Si as a primary of second function LOOKS like it would suck to me because I've been viewing it through the lense of an ENFP. I know now that most people who are SJ don't seem to think so, and that's the kind of answer I was looking for.
In the first place, I don't know why, from the perspective of ANY type, you would think that it would suck to be an SJ. Second, if you knew that SJs would probably not think that it sucks to be them, then why would you ask? You make so little sense it confounds me.
3rd bold: I haven't assumed anything. that's why the title of this thread is a question and not a statement. I simply stated how SJs appeared to me and asked if people who actually are SJs feel the same way. they apparently don't, I have learned what I set to learn from this thread.
First you asked if it sucks being an SJ. Then you said, "does it ever get hard having that Si voice in your head constantly being like 'you're supposed to do this' 'it's your duty to do that' 'RULES!!!,' stating directly the reasons that you already believed would make it difficult being an SJ. Then you turned around, despite having already answered your own question, and asked "what's it like to have Si as your first or second function?"
4th bold: "leads me to the suspicion". that is completely different from what you said in your first post. acusing someone's integrity based on a "suspicion" is extremely irresponsible.
Not really.
5th bold: derailing people DETRACTS from superiority. it doesn't add to it. superiority is all about inegrity. you are correct, superiority is extremely important to me, hence why my incentive is against derailing people and not for it.
Derailing? What are you talking about? I said "rail." Also, superiority is all about integrity? Your "incentive" is against derailing people? Hold it...are you a native English speaker?
6th bold: I am not rationalizing. I'm telling the truth. and if someone is irationally offended by me asking an honest question and telling the truth, they need to work on being more open minded, more understanding and less judgemental
If you're being honest, then what you said in the OP was honestly stupid. It really doesn't matter either way.
I didn't say they sucked. I was under the (now I know false) impression that it sucked to be one. this is not the same thing. perhaps this medaphor will help you understand what I mean
Do black people who lived during the Southern Reconstruction suck?
Obvious answer: no, they were just as intelligent and good natured people as their white bretheren
HOWEVER
Would it suck to be a black person during this period?
probable answer: yes. immensly so people pushed them into the dirt, they had no rights, people didn't respect them, and they had the constant fear of being lynched hanging over their head. it has nothing to do with them as people, but being black in those circumstances would almost certainly stuck.
this is an incredibly extreme example, but it gets the point across. I was under the (again, quite false) impression that life was a lot harder for SJs, so I asked if they felt the same way, which they apparently don't.
Oh boy. Where to start. First off, it wouldn't be a "medaphor," it would be an analogy. Second, the analogy is a bad one. To say that "it would suck to be black during the reconstruction" is different than saying "it would suck to be SJ" because, for the former, the reason it would suck is because of external circumstances, while for the latter, it would suck because that's who they are. The statement "it would suck to be black during the reconstruction" is more analogous to "it would suck to be SJ in an NF environment," or something to that effect. So...wrong, wrong, wrong.