Spamtar
Ghost Monkey Soul
- Joined
- Sep 1, 2009
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- MBTI Type
- INTP
- Enneagram
- 5w4
#1 direct results indirect communication (regardless more practical in management avoid conflict maximize work)
#2 direct communication/indirect results. (message is less clear and seems insulting passive aggressiveness)
#3 indirect communication/direct results. Regardless if rhetorically a question their will be a change of gloves
#4 direct communication/direct results. Specific instructions to cause a direct result.
Reading this I notice the Te and Ti difference when it comes to harmony. I can respect how they feel about BS in general but social harmony is not BS. Looking at it not for what it is rather the illusion we want it to represent. In my eyes, protocol has the power to change may sticky situations to run smooth, and thus greater efficiency. Reasons I value harmony is:
1. It feels good
and
2. avoids resentment and aggressions in others (both standard aggression and passive aggression) i.e. don’t piss off the busboys or they will spit in your food.
Of the four choices I like #1 and #3 because both those scene's results are obtained.
choice #2 seems a rude power play which would (at least if I was one of the subordinates) foster resentment.
choice #4 seems too overbearing. Makes me claustrophobic just thinking about out...get out of my room creepy professor.
I wonder if other types feel a similar response to the scenarios
#2 direct communication/indirect results. (message is less clear and seems insulting passive aggressiveness)
#3 indirect communication/direct results. Regardless if rhetorically a question their will be a change of gloves
#4 direct communication/direct results. Specific instructions to cause a direct result.
I think the element here with some Ts is the bullshit factor. Sometimes we get it but we don't subscribe to the social conventions because they're bullshit given our past history with that person. Whereas an F would just as easily (more easily?) see the bullshit, but they probably value the convention more. When your goals have little to nothing to do with harmony because you have an issue you're trying to address, pretending to value harmony first and foremost is often bullshit. You can respectfully communicate something when you're peeved without needing harmony. I don't like the imposition of harmony being a value. I don't necessarily value it.
Reading this I notice the Te and Ti difference when it comes to harmony. I can respect how they feel about BS in general but social harmony is not BS. Looking at it not for what it is rather the illusion we want it to represent. In my eyes, protocol has the power to change may sticky situations to run smooth, and thus greater efficiency. Reasons I value harmony is:
1. It feels good
and
2. avoids resentment and aggressions in others (both standard aggression and passive aggression) i.e. don’t piss off the busboys or they will spit in your food.
Of the four choices I like #1 and #3 because both those scene's results are obtained.
choice #2 seems a rude power play which would (at least if I was one of the subordinates) foster resentment.
choice #4 seems too overbearing. Makes me claustrophobic just thinking about out...get out of my room creepy professor.
I wonder if other types feel a similar response to the scenarios