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Hi, my name is lux. I’m your local liberal gay atheistic trans boy ISFJ, and I’m here to tell you that you don’t have to be Your Grandmother™ to be the same. Your questions—answered. I was born for this day, and you were all waiting for it.
First, let’s give a little background information. Please acquaint yourself with this these threads:
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...enfp.html?highlight=ESFJ+e2+The+People's+ENFP
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...si-conservative-semantics-misconceptions.html
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...unctions/84438-learn-introverted-sensing.html
Why ISFJ?
ISFJ is one of the most common types. Yet look around you. Most of the people you see, given only a very basic (or stereotyped) understanding of MBTI, will not type themselves as such—especially if given access to one of those horrid online ISFJ type profiles.
As addressed in the People’s ENFP thread, and its spin-off thread regarding INFPs and ISFJs… it’s “not okay†for someone to try to tell another person, usually a self-typed xNFP, that they are actually an xSFJ, because of inherent bias against the type. In fact, typing someone as an xSFJ has been used as an insult by some.
The usual portrait of an ISFJ that one may find online depicts us to be traditional, mothering, religious, etc. Those things aren’t bad, but they are also not what makes an ISFJ.
The ISFJ Is one of the most common and yet least understood types. Forget everything you think you know about ISFJs. I’m here to clear it up for you.
If you are questioning your type, feel free to ask me questions about ISFJs or anything related in this thread. Please don’t ask me to read a questionnaire and give you the answer. Talk to me. Engage. You are the only one who knows you best, and therefore you are the person who is most qualified to type yourself. I am here to provide knowledge, information, and tools. But you make all of the decisions in the end.
A few things about myself. I have been interested in typology (as a casual hobby) for almost five years. While I think MBTI is one of the weaker systems compared to enneagram and socionics, it was my “gateway drug†and so I hold a bit of a soft spot for it.
The first test I ever took gave me an ISFJ result. It lead me to an online profile of ISFJs. Some of it fit, but it never quite felt… right. It made me sound close-minded. It made me sound way more warm and nurturing than I really am. It made me sound like an old lady.
I went through a period of angst last year. Angst about Fe. “It’s the Fe,†I said. “I know I’m Si/Ne, but I must be Fi.†I never did type as INFP, but the angst was real. Finally, I learned what Fe is.
Fe is not shallow, conforming, or hivemind. Fe is not about blindly adopting external values.
Fe is about having the compulsive desire to spread your values. Fe types want what they value to be the norm. They want other people to value the same things they do, and it bothers them when they don’t. On the other hand, Fi types, while very much so also able to engage in debate to defend their values, are not so much about sharing them with others as much as they are more interested in being a “living example†or embodiment of what they believe, and let others judge for themselves. It doesn’t bother the Fi type as much as the Fe type when others have different values—they may argue with them and try to “show them the facts,†but at the end of the day, it’s not changing their mind that matters. This is why Fi types oftentimes see strong or immature Fe as “imposing,†and why Fe types may view Fi types as “selfish.â€
Why I do what I do—why I have done so much work on this forum trying to teach and explain Si, Fe, and SFJs in general—is an example of utilizing Fe. It bugs the living shit out of me to see the spreading of misinformation and stereotypes about a type and its functions that are already extremely misrepresented and misunderstood. I want everyone to understand it the way I understand it. I want everyone to be on the same page.
Please ask me questions if you are questioning your type or would just like to understand ISFJs better. Don’t ask me to type you, only you can do that. Ask me questions that you would like answered about ISFJs, their functions, their stereotypes, what’s true and what isn’t, etc. and I will be more than happy to answer.
…At first, I was going to make this more of a FAQ masterthread of questions to guide the reader through the process of determining their type, but I guess it’s turning out to be more of an “Ask an ISFJ†thread. Except better, because I’m fucking fantastic.
First, let’s give a little background information. Please acquaint yourself with this these threads:
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...enfp.html?highlight=ESFJ+e2+The+People's+ENFP
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...si-conservative-semantics-misconceptions.html
http://www.typologycentral.com/foru...unctions/84438-learn-introverted-sensing.html
Why ISFJ?
ISFJ is one of the most common types. Yet look around you. Most of the people you see, given only a very basic (or stereotyped) understanding of MBTI, will not type themselves as such—especially if given access to one of those horrid online ISFJ type profiles.
As addressed in the People’s ENFP thread, and its spin-off thread regarding INFPs and ISFJs… it’s “not okay†for someone to try to tell another person, usually a self-typed xNFP, that they are actually an xSFJ, because of inherent bias against the type. In fact, typing someone as an xSFJ has been used as an insult by some.
The usual portrait of an ISFJ that one may find online depicts us to be traditional, mothering, religious, etc. Those things aren’t bad, but they are also not what makes an ISFJ.
The ISFJ Is one of the most common and yet least understood types. Forget everything you think you know about ISFJs. I’m here to clear it up for you.
If you are questioning your type, feel free to ask me questions about ISFJs or anything related in this thread. Please don’t ask me to read a questionnaire and give you the answer. Talk to me. Engage. You are the only one who knows you best, and therefore you are the person who is most qualified to type yourself. I am here to provide knowledge, information, and tools. But you make all of the decisions in the end.
A few things about myself. I have been interested in typology (as a casual hobby) for almost five years. While I think MBTI is one of the weaker systems compared to enneagram and socionics, it was my “gateway drug†and so I hold a bit of a soft spot for it.
The first test I ever took gave me an ISFJ result. It lead me to an online profile of ISFJs. Some of it fit, but it never quite felt… right. It made me sound close-minded. It made me sound way more warm and nurturing than I really am. It made me sound like an old lady.
I went through a period of angst last year. Angst about Fe. “It’s the Fe,†I said. “I know I’m Si/Ne, but I must be Fi.†I never did type as INFP, but the angst was real. Finally, I learned what Fe is.
Fe is not shallow, conforming, or hivemind. Fe is not about blindly adopting external values.
Fe is about having the compulsive desire to spread your values. Fe types want what they value to be the norm. They want other people to value the same things they do, and it bothers them when they don’t. On the other hand, Fi types, while very much so also able to engage in debate to defend their values, are not so much about sharing them with others as much as they are more interested in being a “living example†or embodiment of what they believe, and let others judge for themselves. It doesn’t bother the Fi type as much as the Fe type when others have different values—they may argue with them and try to “show them the facts,†but at the end of the day, it’s not changing their mind that matters. This is why Fi types oftentimes see strong or immature Fe as “imposing,†and why Fe types may view Fi types as “selfish.â€
Why I do what I do—why I have done so much work on this forum trying to teach and explain Si, Fe, and SFJs in general—is an example of utilizing Fe. It bugs the living shit out of me to see the spreading of misinformation and stereotypes about a type and its functions that are already extremely misrepresented and misunderstood. I want everyone to understand it the way I understand it. I want everyone to be on the same page.
Please ask me questions if you are questioning your type or would just like to understand ISFJs better. Don’t ask me to type you, only you can do that. Ask me questions that you would like answered about ISFJs, their functions, their stereotypes, what’s true and what isn’t, etc. and I will be more than happy to answer.
…At first, I was going to make this more of a FAQ masterthread of questions to guide the reader through the process of determining their type, but I guess it’s turning out to be more of an “Ask an ISFJ†thread. Except better, because I’m fucking fantastic.