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How did the ENTJs outclass you all recently on the forum?
They used to be the crazy ones!
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How did the ENTJs outclass you all recently on the forum?
They used to be the crazy ones!
One of my best friends (INTJ) was a roommate in college with me for two years. We never fought and got along fantastic.
Upon graduation he told me he didn't want to be friends anymore, which completely sidelined me. He said we no longer had similar interests and he didn't see the reason of us being friends anymore. Turns out there were issues he had for the past couple of years but, "talking about issues is more of my thing, not his."
He went off to his engineering job and about two months later sent me a message telling me he misses how much fun we had rooming together.
I'm assuming this is meant to be some sort of subtle apology? Should I even bother with this kid anymore?
One of my best friends (INTJ) was a roommate in college with me for two years. We never fought and got along fantastic.
Upon graduation he told me he didn't want to be friends anymore, which completely sidelined me. He said we no longer had similar interests and he didn't see the reason of us being friends anymore. Turns out there were issues he had for the past couple of years but, "talking about issues is more of my thing, not his."
He went off to his engineering job and about two months later sent me a message telling me he misses how much fun we had rooming together.
I'm assuming this is meant to be some sort of subtle apology? Should I even bother with this kid anymore?
No. He's an immature asshole, not someone you need in your life.
He went off to his engineering job and about two months later sent me a message telling me he misses how much fun we had rooming together.
I'm assuming this is meant to be some sort of subtle apology? Should I even bother with this kid anymore?
Here's one I thought I'd never ask: How do I convince my INTJ s/o to book a doctors appointment?
About two months ago he came to me and asked me to remind him to book an appointment, I did. Since there's been no progress. I bring it up now and then (not to the point of nagging, mostly in a teasing way) but he still hasn't budged on it. Lol, being an adult I know I can't *make* him do these things, and it's not like he has anything life threatening (just wanted to get some things checked) but as an ESFJ I don't feel like I've done my 'duty' until the 'task' is complete. Do I just drop it? Or do you guys sometimes need a bit of a push to get things going?
For those INTJs that have been or are presently in a relationship with an INTP, what were some of the things you had to learn about getting along with this type? What were some of the challenges you had to face with your INTP?
Almost all of the INTJs I know have a tendency to laugh at people's stupidity instead of trying to fix their stupidity. I mean, they'll still comment on it, but they may not suggest alternatives, because they're too busy joking around about the problem. I've seen this in real life as well as on the forum (and I've seen it with a few ENTJs, too). It always surprises me (even though it shouldn't), because with Te secondary, shouldn't INTJs be more likely to try to fix perceived imperfections?
INTJs are very open minded about your right to be an idiot.
They laugh at situations, but only if it doesn't effect them. Then they will bust in to correct it.
Edit: According to the ones I have known.
A similar question to this may have been asked already, but nonetheless, here it is. And in advance, don't take this poorly, because I say it with love in my heart -- love for my many INTJ friends (and my INTJ roommate).
Almost all of the INTJs I know have a tendency to laugh at people's stupidity instead of trying to fix their stupidity. I mean, they'll still comment on it, but they may not suggest alternatives, because they're too busy joking around about the problem. I've seen this in real life as well as on the forum (and I've seen it with a few ENTJs, too). It always surprises me (even though it shouldn't), because with Te secondary, shouldn't INTJs be more likely to try to fix perceived imperfections?
The closest I can come to an answer is that maybe it comes from a sense of futility; people are going to be stupid no matter what, so you might as well find the humor in it. Is that close to the answer to my question, or am I totally off base?
Note: I have an INTJ aunt who is a very strong exception to this rule; she is without a doubt the most obsessive, meddling, worrying, and EXTREMELY type 1w2 person I have ever met.
Another note: My question is coming from a pretty biased position, since I am also a type 1 and therefore I have a tendency to feel like I'm morally obligated to interfere if something is being done incorrectly; i.e. I have a hard time finding the humor in watching stupid people be stupid. It's like fingernails on a chalkboard.
It takes WAY too much energy to correct someone, especially when they think they are absolutely right, than to let them believe something stupid or be stupid. Morally obligated to interfere? Perhaps the idea of interfering is what bothers me most because I don't want to be interfered with. I would go out of my way to make sure that doesn't happen, if necessary. I think every idiot on TV, in politics, in religion is stupid but I'm not telling them that and they wouldn't consider anyone's obligation to interfere worth their time or effort either.
Yes. Interference takes time/effort, and crosses the line of self-determination that I tend to value strongly. I will do this if the stupidity affects me directly, or a project I am involved in (as at work). I will also do it if the stupid person is a close friend or relative, to save them from the effects of their actions. Otherwise, I usually let them be. After all, what looks "stupid" to me occasionally might actually make sense in the other person's situation.
As for the humor, well - that can't be helped. Even if you are my best friend, I may still laugh, but I will certainly intervene.
Thanks, all! This makes a lot of sense. I guess it isn't so different from how I operate, after all. ceecee, your point about energy really resonates with me, especially combined with what Nicodemus said; if I feel like someone's issues are too deep-rooted to change, I won't want to waste my energy on them. I suppose the key difference is the bolded, which is one of the only things I quoted that I don't relate to. Although I dislike being controlled, I tend to care more about being correct, in the long run, so if someone meddles in my affairs, I might not mind, after the initial irritation.I concur with Coriolis' words but would add that the pattern extends to other deep-rooted 'problems' people may have as well.
Do you mean in terms of MBTI functions? I can explain it only as a combination of several functions, which is how I see the functions working in any case.I suppose the key difference is the bolded, which is one of the only things I quoted that I don't relate to. Although I dislike being controlled, I tend to care more about being correct, in the long run, so if someone meddles in my affairs, I might not mind, after the initial irritation.
Where do you think that self-determination value comes from, functionally?
Why are you taking these tests? I assume it is to do something different than you did before, because otherwise it would be quite pointless to take them at all. So, considering the perhaps unconscious urge to try something new in answering the questions, one can very well conclude that you are an ENTP-Spielkind receiving funny results to funny answers. Why INTJ and not ESFP? Well, maybe there is calling for greatness in you after all.Dear intjs, why did you break all these tests ?