Speed Gavroche
Whisky Old & Women Young
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- Oct 20, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- EsTP
- Enneagram
- 6w7
- Instinctual Variant
- sx/sp
ESTP 6w7 Sx/Sp
ESTP 6w7 Sx/Sp
I'm gonna say ESTJ, as she's very take charge right?
hahahahahahaha that's exactly "YOUR" type!!!
... and she's in your sign.... lol
ENFJ 3w2 She's a social activist and caring mother.
ENTJ 6w7, she's a control freak and a paranoid, misgiving flippant.
olololol honestly, where did you get that?
Read, the press. Read biographies. Everything is there. She was and still be the hard-headed bad girl of Hollywood. She has a difficult temperament, has and always had strong insecurities, is controlling in relationships, has a strong need for security. And, yes, misgiving, paranoid, flippant. Typing her ENFJ just because she is "a social activist" and "loves her children" is like typing George Clooney (another ENTJ) as ENFJ because he is "charming" or a 3w2 because he is "succesfull": it's bullshit.
Watch the vid posted by Lady X: she is very anxious, insecure, questionning. And she's rational and hard-headed, a bad girl. She's a cp 6 who integrated in 9 throughout the years. But she still misgiving and insecure. She's a compulsive personality and follow her ambition, not social norms. She's a Te dom, absoulutely not an Fe-dom or a 3.
I guess you're referring to Andrew Morton's biography. Most of it seems to be pure PR.
I thought she was an NF type
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I wasn't assuming that because she was a sensor, I was assuming that because she was specifically SP. I tend to assume that SJ's are reasonably intelligent because they have good memories and evaluate things against standards. I assume NP's are intelligent because they can see patterns in things. I assume NJ's are intelligent because they can see things from different perspectives.
I believe she could be an ESTP, I was just not expecting an ESTP to be able to mask their general lack of higher processes so well.
(I might be a little biased against them because I'm an INFJ, and I'm obviously going to expect that an ESTP is disgusting and insane. It's just natural for me to do so.)
However, I assume that SP's just perceive and react to what's obviously going on around them, and can't think ahead without great effort. They don't even value or process things, they just react. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that, I just personally couldn't respect or like anyone who behaved that way.
Having researched her more completely, I believe she might be ESTP, but am impressed by her ability to pretend to appear reasonably sociable and humane for the length of the interview. I had no idea they were that good. Now I can see how they would make good con men. I just expect SP's to be the people who run around starting fights, learning to read later than other people, and lacking the ability to pay attention in class. I also expected them to be good at sports, working with tools, and dealing with a situation using the resources at hand.
I was reading some posts by no other than David Kiersey himself over the past few days on this very topic. He spent some time researching the topic, looking at her interviews etc. is convinced that she is an NF. Basically, he says that Hollywood is has a very SP culture and that's where she grew up so while she might appear to be an SP, she actually is not.