People never believed me when I told them that I was really very anti-social!
I'm not too bothered about developing my sensing side, although my ISTJ wife thinks I should.
These two sentences when put back to back definitely make you an INTJ
(Sorry that just struck me as funny)
I think a danger of typing ,such as the MBTI, is that you may more happily fall into what's comfortable i.e. typical INTJ.
Exactly which is why I think that more attention needs to be paid to paths of development.
Personally I think it's very important for an INTJ to work on their outgoing/external side. An ENTP is probably a lot friendlier than an INTJ, so it's a good side to show in public.
Strangely though you'd have to have been an ENTP to notice that though. Mind you from my point of view there's little funnier than sitting and listening to my INTJ friend give his critique on the world as it passes by. I'm sorry but that much bile put into such succinct and cutting sarcasm is just plain funny
I personally don't think that talking to people makes you switch to "E". I don't see how that works at all, really... when I talk to people I'm still very much inward focused and its almost like translating. I can still talk and communicate very well and I see that a lot of people enjoy talking to me.
Talking to people doesn't particularly do it but giving energy, broadcasting, does. Anyone can talk but to extrovert is to deliberately offer a connection, to extend toward the person some kind of interaction as opposed to waiting for others to do so and being all input and no output.
I know that everyone has the potential to use any function but that some are very difficult and energy consuming to use, and are not prefered functions, but I don't see how that makes you switch from, in my case, INFP to ENFP. I'm still INFP and I'm still acting like one, I'm just communicating with other people. The individual functions themselves only go so far, because really it seems that its the combination of the functions that defines the personalities rather than the specific functions. I don't really beleive you can naturally slip into another whole personality... even if you may seem to be doing so. For example, even if I was to use, say, sensing and thinking simaultaniously, I'd still be an INFP while doing that because I'd merely be focusing on those functions, but I'd still be and INFP and I'd still being thinking how thought comes naturally to me as an INFP.
That much is true. No matter what I am still an INTP. Even when acting in an ENTJ manner I still am an INTP and can be seen to be an INTP but were you to be challenged to decide which was an INTP manifesting ENTJ and which was an ENTJ manifesting INTP you may be hard pressed to find the answer. It's more about moving yourself to the border than crossing over completely (the border between E and I for example).
That part is what I'm puzzling over...
Why is it INTP -> ENTJ and INTJ -> ENTP
It works in my case going from INFJ -> ENXP but why?
If it's just I to E... All you need to do is switch your dominant and auxillary functions. But if it is IJ -> EP and IP -> EJ You're involving shadows... I would have thought it'll be easier to use auxillary more in order to extrovert.
Good question. The honest answer is I don't know. All I know is that I'm rarely ENTP. Sure I can extrovert but I'm still doing INTP when I'm doing it. I only slip into ENTJ when organising and ESFJ is still a lowly position in the list of mind sets which I utilise. It tends to form more my motivation than my actualisation.
Anyhow, in function terms an IP is the same as an EJ. If I were to flip from IP to EP then not only would I be changing the functions to extroverted but I would also be altering what order they were prioritised in.
Reputation points for you. Very INTJ
My ENTJ sister often gets mistaken for being ENFJ. I think because she learned coping skills from our ENFP mother.
ENTJ and ENFJ share a lot in common.
I think that it depends mostly on peoples preconceptions about the type and a general ignorance to positive and negative influences. A negative ENFJ can seem to be an ENTJ and vice versa. It's a common mistake in typing.
According to my sister she is always most immediately attracted to INTP/ENTP males and most of her female friends are INTJs/INFJs/ENTJs. I guess it's some brain chemistry that she immediately clicks with.
Now that's odd. My father is an ENTJ and he seems to dislike ENTPs universally (he's not prone to being so prejudiced normally) and he found me quite tiring when I was younger though one of his main advisors is an INTP. Not that he ever thinks to ask me the great gallute!
I think it's best to analyze personality on a spectrum- rather than being finite. Most people who have developed their full range tend to vacillate between I/E F/T J/P imho anyway.
The facets of a person are always shades of grey but types are always absolutes. If not then how can you move forward?
If what you see cannot be called an orange but has to be described as being most like the common conception of fruit and is kind of a warm yellow in colour with dimpled skin ....etc then firstly it'd take you ages and secondly nothing would ever be achieved because your bound to find the one person who goes "huh?".
I agree that no one is 100% one thing and 0% another. That's artificial but when it comes to typing it's best to think as if it is and then complicate things when necessary rather than to start from that point.
Interesting.
I am an INTP, however I imagine there are times when I appear quite ENTJ. At work I am expected to think on my feet, provide direction to and guide resources, make quick decisions, facilitate workshops with a moments notice to cost and size new initiatives that the company may want to undertake, have answers ready regarding everything and anything that I may be asked, pull rabbits out of a hat and make something out of nothing on a daily basis, all while appearing totally in control and confident.
My ability to to most of this is not my preferred way to operate, but I can do it and feel comfortable given that I feel very competent in my role.
Sometimes if it feels exhilarating, but most times it feels exhausting. I can't wait to get home, relax and recharge.
Ah, the life of a consultant.
Ooo the model works for you too???
I concur that it's tiring. One thing though, do you find that you have a need to engage the ole ENTJ mind though? I find that I almost have to switch between (though that could be more environmental now I think about it
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