Yeah, we are the coolest type ever.
I am pretty annoyed right now, so I am going to say exactly what is on my mind.
Saying that ESTPs are difficult to deal with is a generalization which is completely inaccurate, as well as others such relted to other types.
I don't agree with the whole point of this topic, which heavily implies that ESTPs are a difficult type. Which they are not.
Yeah, we are the coolest type ever. We speak what we think, which should make it so easy to communicate with us since you should know where you stand with us.
I even think I am way to polite when expressing my views, though others seem to think I am way to blunt.
I think we are also great, cuz we can go with da flow, which I highly doubt that those who feel a constant need to investigate and control and explain aspects of life, such as the ones who invented the type thing, can do.
And to end this, all types are great, though I tend to disregard those with J, because I have a hard time understanding them.
And I think that in terms of healthy ESTPs, you will loose great stuff if you think they are difficult to deal with!
And yeah, I think we are pretty much self-obsessed.
Wait... she's your sister? Well there you go!
Mos mate/father/whoever ESTP this is has GOT to be boarder line J
There is just no WAY a P type is going to ask you to do things for the sake of getting them done... and emotionally manipulate you? I must be missing something cause I'm emotionally detached... oh wait... could it be that I'm a Thinking type?
Seriously I wouldn't know where to start when it comes to "emotional manipulation"
Also I can't picture any SP not wanting those around them to not be having fun, to not be enjoying things
I believe ESTPs that actually want you to do something are going to get you to do it willingly and happily
If that fails they either give up/get bored or they use their Ti to see if they were not being fair in asking you for the favor, think of a new angle, offer more in return... etc
But as I said... why would an ESTP care about that kind of stuff? Why would an ESTP care about controlling people?
People follow us, we don't need to manipulate them for that to happen, its just how it is
Yeah there are unhealthy ESTPs out there, but they are SPs none the less, prone to getting bored... if you ignore an ESTP I can't imagine them bothering you for long
I am pretty annoyed right now, so I am going to say exactly what is on my mind.
Saying that ESTPs are difficult to deal with is a generalization which is completely inaccurate, as well as others such relted to other types.
I don't agree with the whole point of this topic, which heavily implies that ESTPs are a difficult type. Which they are not.
Yeah, we are the coolest type ever. We speak what we think, which should make it so easy to communicate with us since you should know where you stand with us.
I even think I am way to polite when expressing my views, though others seem to think I am way to blunt.
I think we are also great, cuz we can go with da flow, which I highly doubt that those who feel a constant need to investigate and control and explain aspects of life, such as the ones who invented the type thing, can do.
And to end this, all types are great, though I tend to disregard those with J, because I have a hard time understanding them.
And I think that in terms of healthy ESTPs, you will loose great stuff if you think they are difficult to deal with!
And yeah, I think we are pretty much self-obsessed.
What's with all the needy sappy F sh*t mitzy?
If thats an impression of an ESTP then they must have bipolar or something !
Only difference with our stories is that we mix a bunch of stuff we have experienced and throw it together and the ENTPs throw together some wild hypothetical bull sh*t
Either is pretty funny/interesting
I read that dialogue and felt like I was watching unhealthy SJs on a soapy
But seriously... have you met a female ESTP? They are not very common... I know one and I don't think I've ever seen her cry or be needy like that
But I figured you didn't know what you were talking about after you said we were an "arrogant" type then make us appear "needy" in a dialogue
PS. You being ironic... that meant to be interesting?
What's with all the needy sappy F sh*t mitzy?
If thats an impression of an ESTP then they must have bipolar or something !
Only difference with our stories is that we mix a bunch of stuff we have experienced and throw it together and the ENTPs throw together some wild hypothetical bull sh*t
Either is pretty funny/interesting
I read that dialogue and felt like I was watching unhealthy SJs on a soapy
But seriously... have you met a female ESTP? They are not very common... I know one and I don't think I've ever seen her cry or be needy like that
But I figured you didn't know what you were talking about after you said we were an "arrogant" type then make us appear "needy" in a dialogue
PS. You being ironic... that meant to be interesting?
everyone speaks what they think and whats on their mind.
you can talk a lot but not say anything. its what you say that counts.
and estp's talk a lot of bullshit.
go wit da flow? other types are able to do that as well. some even go as far as to adapt and take advantage of the situations.
self obsessed? yes. in a blunt way which makes it arrogant and not very interesting. at least make it interesting?!
basically, i see nothing special or spectacular about them
they seem too "stereotypical" to me
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cool, thanks for proving my case
What are they?I'm flawed, not perfect
I recognize what my flaws are
I don't remember the OP anymore.Anything I disagreed to wasn't to defend my type
What exactly is your point?
You're kinda like ESTPs in some ways anyway, you might be an N but does that make you instantly able to see your own flaws? or make facts more clear?...
It's an ENTP thing. See, we take those four letters, and extrapolate based on that. It's like what Horatio and other CSIs do. They look at a few clues, and figure out the whole crime based on that.But would you do this mitz?
Would you take 4 letters and think you know a person?
Is that the kinda person you are?
have i mentioned that estp's get offensive over the smallest things?
theyre also blinded by their own faults and flaws
cant see nor accept them and are just unable to
at least other types can take notice and face/recognize the FACTS
in this thread everyone whos not an estp has probably said a few negative things about them. whereas all the ones who are, have been saying "NO THATS NOT TRUE!"
to you, everything that is seen, is all there is. you dont understand that theres just more to it
so you deny everything.
and stereotypical as in the stereotypical man in whats seen in society
either way, i really dont care, its a useless case.
i just wanted to make my point
p.s.
the scionics quote was posted to be as seen as a funny joke/example
ive seen it happen before
ive experienced it happened before
but of course, i should have known that you wouldnt be able to get it..