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Trump vs. Biden

The Cat

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I imagine once the indictment ball starts rolling that everyone will start throwing eachother under the bus to save their own hides. We're about to start hearing a lot more on the inner workings of his administration.

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Their time draws nigh again...
 

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I imagine once the indictment ball starts rolling that everyone will start throwing eachother under the bus to save their own hides. We're about to start hearing a lot more on the inner workings of his administration.

:heart: Here's hoping.
 

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Explainer: Citizen Trump will face legal woes

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Since taking office in January 2017, President Donald Trump has been besieged by civil lawsuits and criminal investigations of his inner circle.

With Democrat Joe Biden capturing the presidency on Saturday, according to all major U.S. television networks, Trump's legal woes are likely to deepen because in January he will lose the protections the U.S. legal system affords to a sitting president, former prosecutors said.

Here are some of the lawsuits and criminal probes that may haunt Trump as he leaves office...
 

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Rumor around Washington is that Corn Pop's name has been floating around in some circles as a potential Attorney General candidate.

Shoutout to [MENTION=25763]Dreamer[/MENTION] for that one.
 

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I saw this earlier and burst into tears with him :cry: I was just so happy and relieved and wanted so badly to give him a hug (he’s one of my favorite CNN people along with Anderson Cooper). :heart:
 

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Feeling hopeful and I will say that I am happy Kamala Harris is VP. She is intelligent, young, and ambitious to be a good politician. Maybe she will be in dialog with the constituents and adjust goals, ideals, and plans to incorporate their voices. Politics should never be about picking an abstract ideology and imposing it on everyone, but to represent the people and make their needs and vision part of your own.
 

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Feeling hopeful and I will say that I am happy Kamala Harris is VP. She is intelligent, young, and ambitious to be a good politician. Maybe she will be in dialog with the constituents and adjust goals, ideals, and plans to incorporate their voices. Politics should never be about picking an abstract ideology and imposing it on everyone, but to represent the people and make their needs and vision part of your own.

Technically she might be a boomer in age (barely) but closer to Gen X, finally.

her policies still have to be hammered out -- I know there are issues there -- but both her and Obama despite being outside Gen X bracket technically felt more representative of my generation. We tend to have been shut out of so much while the older generation has been hogging the limelight.

(I will also admit disappointment in seeing the voting demographics and how the white folks in my generation were still supporting the past administration. The Gen X progressive FB group was really put out. Still, it was kind of wild -- we all came through the regular Generation X FB group, decided there were too many Trumpsters, and started our own group -- I was in the first 100 people or so to cross over.... and within about a week, we already had 3-5K people, ,which was more then the regular Generation X group we came from, ROFL. The group started in mid-June and has about 15K members at this point.)

So maybe they have screwed up in the past or their past policies no longer reflect what should be done. All I want for them to do is listen, learn, and change to accommodate.
 

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This is exactly what I am talking about when I talk about some things needing to get dealt with before we can move on and what role "forgiveness" plays.

It is not really about hounding Trump. I have grown to despise him, sure -- he is the antithesis of what I view to be a good and/or mature human being, whether or not he had ever been president (as being president just gave him so much power that he felt free to expose who he was to even a larger degree) -- but it won't fix anything to just be bent on punishment.

However, what he did was smear, erase, and/or even downright remove the rules that we have tried to maintain for our government, social boundaries, the rule of law. Every freaking day was yet another blurring of the boundaries until it's hard to tell what we are and what is allowable. Whether it was him doing it directly or him simply allowing for others to do it without fear of punishment or recrimination, it all amounted to the same thing. The wolves ran rampant in the chicken pen.

Biden's got a lot on his plate now, and whatever administration he brings in with him (plus the American people, we need to be involved), so we have a lot of other things to focus on, yes, including outreach and trying to provide for everyone. But I still think there has to be some level of accountability -- not necessarily to punish people who are out of favor or who we like or dislike, however someone might personally feel about someone, but to just restore the freaking boundaries. The lines have to be drawn clearly again about what is and is not acceptable, and part of this involves smacking some hands.

Again, the goal really is about restoring accountability, the boundaries, what is legally and socially allowable, etc. Everything we have been losing especially in the past four years. People need to know what will be accepted and what will NOT be accepted going forward. If the lines are not made clear, the next Trumpian who comes into office (if that happens) will start where Trump left off.

I am not sure how to move forward without regaining a sense of who we are supposed to be as a people and what is expected of us as a country.
 

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This is exactly what I am talking about when I talk about some things needing to get dealt with before we can move on and what role "forgiveness" plays.

It is not really about hounding Trump. I have grown to despise him, sure -- he is the antithesis of what I view to be a good and/or mature human being, whether or not he had ever been president (as being president just gave him so much power that he felt free to expose who he was to even a larger degree) -- but it won't fix anything to just be bent on punishment.

However, what he did was smear, erase, and/or even downright remove the rules that we have tried to maintain for our government, social boundaries, the rule of law. Every freaking day was yet another blurring of the boundaries until it's hard to tell what we are and what is allowable. Whether it was him doing it directly or him simply allowing for others to do it without fear of punishment or recrimination, it all amounted to the same thing. The wolves ran rampant in the chicken pen.

Biden's got a lot on his plate now, and whatever administration he brings in with him (plus the American people, we need to be involved), so we have a lot of other things to focus on, yes, including outreach and trying to provide for everyone. But I still think there has to be some level of accountability -- not necessarily to punish people who are out of favor or who we like or dislike, however someone might personally feel about someone, but to just restore the freaking boundaries. The lines have to be drawn clearly again about what is and is not acceptable, and part of this involves smacking some hands.

Again, the goal really is about restoring accountability, the boundaries, what is legally and socially allowable, etc. Everything we have been losing especially in the past four years. People need to know what will be accepted and what will NOT be accepted going forward. If the lines are not made clear, the next Trumpian who comes into office (if that happens) will start where Trump left off.

I am not sure how to move forward without regaining a sense of who we are supposed to be as a people and what is expected of us as a country.

Exactly.
 

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Why Trump can’t go to the White House anymore?
Because its FOR BIDEN.

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People are saying that if you search "loser" on Twitter, Donald Trump profile is the first result (on the people section):
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Replace 'Americanos' with 'Americans' (just eat the o), because I am too lazy for doing a photoshop:
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Anyway, my country is full of Biden 'victory' (it is not a 100% over, I guess) news too (@virtual ghost), even if there are more important news (for us, here)...
I feel your happiness over the thread and I got a little bit happy too, thanks for that XD.
I think there are strong arguments that Donald Trump is psychopath or semi-psychopath (Bolsonaro definitely is), specially on the Narcissistic part of the Dark Triad, even though I never manifested myself much because I haven't heard the guy much (nor do I need to); Supposing that Biden isn't a psychopath, that is indeed a win situation for you guys.
 

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Guys, we have to be gracious winners. So what if Donald Trump lost? The important thing is that we unite as Americans.

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