Trump vs. Biden

[dunce]

Another good unbiased view on how democrats may engage in the religious worship of politics similar to republicans...we are all humans the phenomena is two sided: anyone arguing that it's only on one side is not going by the science:

 

[dunce]

So the argument about voting for trump bordering religion versus Biden being secular has been nullified. Both sides engage is celebrity worship. An argument that seeks to persuade a side must focus on points of differentiation by definition of what it means to vote. argument nullified.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

The most ardent Trump supporters don't reside in reality. Their behavior is cult-like but I have a feeling it's because they are directionless and hopeless. I don't necessarily blame them as social and governmental failures put them in that position but - they want nothing to do with actual progress or change at all. They simply want to punish their "enemies", real or imaginary.

I wish there were more investigative reporters exploring this. I mean, in a respectful way (which is to say, portraying the other side in a humanizing way). The snapshots of the other side we currently get from the likes of Triumph (the Insult comic, who's really GD funny but the current political divide is not a good place for him) or Jordan Klepper aren't doing anyone any favors.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

So the argument about voting for trump bordering religion versus Biden being secular has been nullified. Both sides engage is celebrity worship. An argument that seeks to persuade a side must focus on points of differentiation by definition of what it means to vote. argument nullified.

Why do you assume your sources are unbiased just because they agree with you? You quote sources with Right wing bias and declare "arguments nullified" as if your utterances determine reality. Hey I know someone else who thinks like that.
Most sources are biased based on their funding. There are all kinds of people with differing motivations, but Trump deliberately and strategically thumps Bibles to appeal to the Bible Belt demographic. This crowd has been necessary for Republican victories and is the reason they slap some moral stances into their platforms to appeal to one of the few working class demographics poised to be easily manipulated by their religious rhetoric.


There are people too fervent on the Left but there isn't the same historical and intentional appeal to a religious base in the country. The religious fervor for Trump despite his being a rapist and harasser is a radicalized extension of that established voter base.

Argument verified.

 

[dunce]

Why do you assume your sources are unbiased just because they agree with you? You quote sources with Right wing bias and declare "arguments nullified" as if your utterances determine reality. Hey I know someone else who thinks like that. Most sources are biased based on their funding. There are all kinds of people with differing motivations, but Trump deliberately and strategically thumps Bibles to appeal to the Bible Belt demographic. This crowd has been necessary for Republican victories and is the reason they slap some moral stances into their platforms to appeal to one of the few working class demographics poised to be easily manipulated by their religious rhetoric. There are people too fervent on the Left but there isn't the same historical and intentional appeal to a religious base in the country. The religious fervor for Trump despite his being a rapist and harasser is a radicalized extension of that established voter base. Argument verified.

They are unbiased because they come from people who are politically neutral. In one case I even provided you a source from your own party. In any case just saying verified doesn't make it so. You actually have to prove your point so th facts. As I've shown both republicans and democrats behave religiously and that is part of the human condition. Unfortunately that nullified your argument that one is superior or inferior on that basis. Sorry if that offends you but facts do not care about feelings.

 

[dunce]

You came back with this later. I don't judge people on appearance. I have not criticized his appearance except once back in 2015 I quoted the "hell toupee" meme because of it's punny comedic value. I don't think that every person who votes for Trump has religious fervor, but there is a significant number that do. There are also a lot of people who seek the approval of relatives and friends who support him, and there are people who naturally compartmentalize their sense of reality, so they don't have a problem with his moral violations if they can be convinced he is a good business man. (I'm not convinced). People think they are being objective when they compartmentalize or when they are good at dismissing moral data points. I don't think that is objectivity. The number of people in the U.S. earning over $400K is apparently 25%, so that alone would not be enough to get Trump elected. I am also sure that plenty of people with wealth do not have empathy for those who earn less. I have a doctorate, two masters degree, and have collaborated with professionals who are world class, and I make $30K if I'm lucky (and I'm not this year by a long shot). I also owe a boatload of student loans and do not own any property. I have no expectation of life being financially fair, and society hasn't been for me or my family at all, and I do resent wealthy people who are solely concerned with their pocket books and vote only to grasp hold of a few more dollars. The Republican Party has been focused on de-regulating the corporations since Reagon and the trickle down economics has taken the piss on the rest of us. So, richy rich who doesn't care if Trump gropes and rapes, mocks the disabled, bombs the hell out of Syria, has every policy to make the U.S. and corporations as dominant as possible at the expense of everything else in the universe, if that citizen votes to keep more of that paycheck that comes from exploiting the working class whose labor is not being properly compensated, then that's his guilt. The religious fervor I described for Trump is what it takes to get the poor to vote for him. I'm sure the rich do it coldly, emotionlessly, punching in their fucking numbers with the arrogance to assume they are "worth it".

May I ask, is your student loan debt u.s. based? I do agree with you about one thing student debt is the work of the devil. It allows universities to increase their tuition by 5 fold. In the 80's a doctorate cost less than 20k in tuition. Nowadays it costs 100k. A lot of that is the result of Unforgivable student debt, primarily Joe Biden's crowning achievement.


also do you know that the majority of wealthy plutocrats support Joe Biden? He has raised 10 times more money from larger corporate entities.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

They are unbiased because they come from people who are politically neutral. In one case I even provided you a source from your own party. In any case just saying verified doesn't make it so. You actually have to prove your point so th facts. As I've shown both republicans and democrats behave religiously and that is part of the human condition. Unfortunately that nullified your argument that one is superior or inferior on that basis. Sorry if that offends you but facts do not care about feelings.

I don't belong to the Democratic Party. I'm never offended by facts. You are socially a bit offensive even with this recent explanation to be that "facts don't care about feelings." You are grossly arrogant and patronizing. Your sources are not sufficiently proven unbiased. Provide more facts.

 

[dunce]

I don't belong to the Democratic Party. I'm never offended by facts. You are socially a bit offensive even with this recent explanation to be that "facts don't care about feelings." You are grossly arrogant and patronizing. Your sources are not sufficiently proven unbiased. Provide more facts.

sorry your not my master so I won't. I simply apologized to you for hurting your feelings and to be objective if you read my posts I have nullified your arguments without personally attacking you. . Saying facts don't care about feelings is a figure of speech and used frequently impersonally in debating. If you want more facts you can google news feed and arrange by most recent date. As I indicated I'd you do this you will see the predominant damage done by rioting is overwhelmingly from the left.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

sorry your not my master so I won't. I simply apologized to you for hurting your feelings and to be objective if you read my posts I have nullified your arguments within ur personally attacking you. . If you want more facts you can google news feed and arrange by most recent date. As I indicated I'd you do this you will see the predominant damage done by rioting is overwhelmingly from the left.

I think you are likely feeling hurt and offended. Projection. An apology is the last thing I want. The first thing I want is a convincing argument.

 

[dunce]

I think you are likely feeling hurt and offended. Projection. An apology is the last thing I want. The first thing I want is a convincing argument.

I have no problem with you thinking this. I don't need to insult you just because you are upset with my views and I have debated you towards victory. I wish you the best and hope that I can be an example of someone who voted for trump but doesn't really care for the Bloke. You mentioned you are drowning in student loans. I just want you to know that that is a direct result of Joe Biden's work in office. Good day to you.
https://theintercept.com/2020/01/07/joe-biden-student-loans/

he now proposed to give you a 10k break yet he is still being supported by the same companies he gave your money too all these years.
i can't debate you anymore because I've nullified your points so I'm moving on.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

I don't belong to the Democratic Party. I'm never offended by facts. You are socially a bit offensive even with this recent explanation to be that "facts don't care about feelings." You are grossly arrogant and patronizing. Your sources are not sufficiently proven unbiased. Provide more facts.

Keep in mind you're interacting with someone who just claimed Ben Shapiro is "politically neutral" directly after claiming the career professionals at U.S. intelligence agencies are too biased to deserve any credibility.

Being paid attention to is a privilege, not a right. Not everyone puts in the effort that merits attention.

 

[dunce]

Biden on propagating Reagans trickle down economics

 

[dunce]

There you go if you're a PhD and voting for Biden then you're voting for more debt. The man has been doing it for years. Hence the name Sleezy Joe.

 

[ceecee]

Keep in mind you're interacting with someone who just claimed Ben Shapiro is "politically neutral" directly after claiming the career professionals at U.S. intelligence agencies are too biased to deserve any credibility.

Being paid attention to is a privilege, not a right. Not everyone puts in the effort that merits attention.

It would be more fun to vote on who this person actually is. Nothing he has said merits attention - except the quip about my possible trust fund (I'm still laughing).

 

[dunce]

I beg you before you vote stay informed. Please read the following to know how Joe got the nickname "make yourself broke and make you homeless Joe" here in the Midwest.https://theintercept.com/2020/01/07/joe-biden-student-loans/

 

[dunce]

Keep in mind you're interacting with someone who just claimed Ben Shapiro is "politically neutral" directly after claiming the career professionals at U.S. intelligence agencies are too biased to deserve any credibility. Being paid attention to is a privilege, not a right. Not everyone puts in the effort that merits attention.

Ben voted for Hillary in the last election so contrary to you stereotyping him based on his faith and conservative leanings he is actually unbiased. Please know the facts before making wild generalizations.

and you are making a logical fallacy with your opinion that someone's profession governs their ability to remain fair and neutral. There is no study that correlates the two at least not one that you've interpreted accurately. That is why I'm utilizing someone's voting history to prove they are at least less biased than the other debates sources. If you're a conservative who voted for a democrat it indicates more open mindedness that a liberal who voted consistory blue. If people are able the select between parties it is actually proven to indicate a sense of unbiased non-religiousity based on personality studies conducted by Jordan Peterson.

anyways I've had enough fun today on the internet. Good day to you too. I at least like how you don't compensate by resolving to personally insult me like some of the other blue fevers.

 

[Jonny]

For those of you who are US citizens, whatever happens today, remember that we are still one country. People vote for their preferred candidate, but that vote does not always constitute an endorsement of all of that candidate’s flaws. For all of our differences, there is good in all of us.

For those of you who aren’t US citizens, enjoy the show.

 

[ceecee]

Ben voted for Hillary in the last election

 

[The Cat]

 

[Doctor Cringelord]

I pulled the lever for Biden. Then I went home and cried in the bathtub while cold water showered me.