Six men charged in alleged plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

Trump campaign guy Jason Miller, on Fox, explaining how Gretchen Whitmer had it coming/brought it on herself.

So we can probably expect more of this. I'm just hoping that voting this clown out, so he can't use our government's executive branch to selectively apply "law and order" only to anyone who opposes him (and giving carte blanche to supporters), will be enough deterrent to stop this after inauguration.

Victim blaming. Classy

 

[ceecee]

It's 13 now. Weird how the blue lives matter OMG riots and looting!! morons are mute when these guys are anti-government milita/Boog and planning to blow up police stations and set IED's. Trump being re-elected is looking more fabulous every day. He's out there crying about his imaginary enemies.

Gretchen Whitmer: 13 charged in plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer - CNNPolitics

 

[Kingu Kurimuzon]

When he’s out of office and the dust has settled, a case for treason could be made against Trump

 

[ceecee]

Anyone that needs to know - these people are Anarcho-capitalists. I would put most extremist libertarians under this umbrella as well in this case but the MSM will never ever use this term or terms like acceleration-ism or capitalist anarchism or voluntaryism. You'll only hear them talk about antifa or use the word anarchy in some made up context - certainly not the actual definition or anything.

 

[iwakar]

Anyone that needs to know - these people are Anarcho-capitalists. I would put most extremist libertarians under this umbrella as well in this case but the MSM will never ever use this term or terms like acceleration-ism or capitalist anarchism or voluntaryism. You'll only hear them talk about antifa or use the word anarchy in some made up context - certainly not the actual definition or anything.

I have been shouting WORDS MEAN THINGS when screen-reading news and social media discourse an awful lot.

 

[Tellenbach]

Ummm, are the people who blame Trump for this also blaming Democrats/the media for the assassination of police officers?

 

[Red Memories]

Anyone that needs to know - these people are Anarcho-capitalists. I would put most extremist libertarians under this umbrella as well in this case but the MSM will never ever use this term or terms like acceleration-ism or capitalist anarchism or voluntaryism. You'll only hear them talk about antifa or use the word anarchy in some made up context - certainly not the actual definition or anything.

I mean, the only MSM thing on Antifa I see is them saying Trump is bullshit for thinking Antifa exists and as usual everything he does or says is a lie or wrong or both. But I don't really watch my MSM, I see it on the front page of my browser. XD

 

[ceecee]

I mean, the only MSM thing on Antifa I see is them saying Trump is bullshit for thinking Antifa exists and as usual everything he does or says is a lie or wrong or both. But I don't really watch my MSM, I see it on the front page of my browser. XD

Antifa doesn't exsist. Antifa is a view by pepple who are anti-fascist, which I thought most people would generally be. Fascism has never been anything but a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism. I would be shocked if any MSM said this instead of Trump is bullshit for thinking antifa exists. He is about most things but that's beside the point.

MSM (I don't watch it, I read it and I read centrist reporting that only makes things worse. this is why I look for independent investigative journalism) uses the word anarchy improperly all the time as well. To them anarchy = looting, rioting and even protesting to the more right leaning, uninformed. But...

This is the sheriff of the county I live in. He is a "constitutional sheriff" and ran on that platform. He enforces the laws he agrees with, he doesn't enforce the ones he doesn't agree with. Which is why he attend this "rally" with no fear of blowback. Until now. Which is a delightful sidebar.

Man charged in plot to kidnap Whitmer shared stage with West Michigan sheriff at rally

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Apparently at least three of the thirteen men charged participated in the armed protests (against Whitmer's shutdown) back in April (?).

The source of this should be listed under HCR's post yesterday, I didn't bother looking through her sources. I've not yet seen a claim in her blog that she hasn't supported with a link.

 

[ceecee]

Jason Miller has the audacity...the AUDACITY to turn this on Whitmer. What else can we expect from an administration in denial of the damage it's caused and the hatred it's inspired?

It's much easier than saying the quiet part, the actual root of all of the extremism we see..

No one is fated to be a far right terrorist. This is learned and fostered by governmental neglect.

We need to make sure that people feel they have a real stake in society and most generally do not.

When Trump took office, 40% of the population was struggling to afford basics.

We are reaping what we've sowed over four decades of trickle-down neoliberal policies. We've brought America's population to the brink. In 2019, it was reported that 78% of full-time workers were living paycheck-to-paycheck.

Either we tackle this head on or continue on the current path - the US is a failing state - a third world county with first world money concentrated in the hands of the wealthy and corporations.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Well said^.

We are bizarrely close to ending up like Octavia Butler's dystopian novels.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

This is the sheriff of the county I live in. He is a "constitutional sheriff" and ran on that platform. He enforces the laws he agrees with, he doesn't enforce the ones he doesn't agree with. Which is why he attend this "rally" with no fear of blowback. Until now. Which is a delightful sidebar.

Man charged in plot to kidnap Whitmer shared stage with West Michigan sheriff at rally

Sheriff Shrugs Off Alleged Whitmer Kidnapping Plot, Suggests It Might’ve Been Citizen’s Arrest

 

[The Cat]

 

[Lark]

Well said^.

We are bizarrely close to ending up like Octavia Butler's dystopian novels.

This reminds me of GDH Cole's quote about fascism being nonsense and convinced that people believe nonsense and should believe nonsense and not that people are irrational and should be convinced of reason but are irrational and should be kept that way.

 

[ceecee]

Sheriff Shrugs Off Alleged Whitmer Kidnapping Plot, Suggests It Might’ve Been Citizen’s Arrest

Yes I heard smh. There is no such thing as a legal citizens arrest of an elected official. If there were, he would probably be in a pit in a basement somewhere. But I am lol'ing at this total blockhead making the news all over the country for something stupid he said.

 

[Z Buck McFate]

This reminds me of GDH Cole's quote about fascism being nonsense and convinced that people believe nonsense and should believe nonsense and not that people are irrational and should be convinced of reason but are irrational and should be kept that way.

That doesn't even make sense. But I... guess... that's the point? Or something? *rubs temples*

 

[Dr Mobius]

At least we can all sleep tight tonight knowing "law and order" Trump will definitely, 100% rein down the hardest possible condemnations and every consequence in the book at these lawbreakers. Right?

Hey there is only a 40% chance he will refer to them as very fine people

 

[ceecee]

All I can say is that I've lived here for several years and, under that veneer of nice, helpful, philanthropic is a warped reality that encourages this behavior. That's why this is a great place to live if your interests revolve around business and the economy and the continuation of neo-liberal policy that eviscerates every one else. It's exactly what the best representation of white, right wing, heavily reformed Protestant values are.

Man charged in Gov. Whitmer kidnap plot was living below Grand Rapids business

Noooooo idea at all. lol

 

[Z Buck McFate]

Hey there is only a 40% chance he will refer to them as very fine people

As per the unspoken Trump 2020 platform: Unfettered entitlement for the 40%, law and order for everyone who isn't the 40%!

 

[anticlimatic]

#puremichigan

Even though Whitmer is easily the worst governor this state has ever had, drunk on self appointed unconstitutional power, and one of the first figures in public office to turn the pandemic into a toxic partisan shit-show, all while eviscerating the state economy and presiding over the 12th highest death rate from Covid among the states, I certainly would not want to see her assaulted/kidnapped, and I certainly do not want to deal with a civil war (which I understand was the underlying intention). I'd rather just vote her out of office when the time comes like a civil american. Hopefully the people who voted her in learned their lesson.

Trying to blame Trump for this is one hell of a TDS stretch. It's OK to not like Trump, but can we please just put down the MSM narrative that has been proven like ten billion times in the last four years to be absolute horse shit?