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What will you do if Trump (Or Biden) wins this November?

The Cat

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I think sadly this bridge building is becoming a minority from both sides. I feel a lot of this hostility began with some of the trump supporter attitudes. Screaming how they defeated those die hard progressives and etc. made the left very hostile to them. Where in some places showing you support Trump in any way makes you an awful person. And now in some places supporting Biden or any republican means you want to destroy this country and you're terrible. Both sides have made things so black and white and polarized that they've lost the sense of humanity of the people. What Jonny just showed was an acknowledgement of the humanity of every person involved, and that he wants to ensure rather than throwing stones at these other people, that he tries to make them less afraid of the situation.

I have my feelings from reading a bit of MSM, of various youtubers of both sides discussing how things have gone, the seeing of all this cancel culture and how cancel culture from either side is not only destroying the culture but taking away people's right to individualism...and an array of just personal experience and hearing other people's experiences since 2016 from my college campus people and etc.

Thats fair. Thank you for the reply. If you'll indulge me a few more questions... You mention cancel culture quite a bit, how close to you is that on a daily basis, as in, how surrounded by it do you tend to find yourself usually?
 

Red Memories

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Thats fair. Thank you for the reply. If you'll indulge me a few more questions... You mention cancel culture quite a bit, how close to you is that on a daily basis, as in, how surrounded by it do you tend to find yourself usually?

Well, I am not as surrounded by it now since I closed my computer a bit. They're the most rampant through social media outlets. With the masks, my family has had a little bit of issues because people assuming if you are not wearing a mask you either don't care and are awful or you're one of those anti-maskers. My grandpa had a manager get called on him at Winco because he wasn't wearing a mask. His doctor says he shouldn't wear one because he already has issues due to his heart and the medicine he has to take for it, and wearing the mask would cause him issues with not enough oxygen within the blood. I have an anxiety disorder and the mask gives me, albeit irrational, anxiety in which makes it extremely difficult for me to wear it. We have found it easier to go to select stores that either do not mandate it, or have exceptions for health conditions. Not all of them do... But I feel my friends kind of assumed I'm one of those annoying people who won't do it rather than taking my anxiety seriously which not only made me feel like I do not matter, but made me really depressed and terrified if the next years of my life I'll have to apply for disability or something because this isn't going to end.

I am a major music listener and I feel like cancel culture, because so many people get "cancelled" for the littlest things and then they have to save face, has ruined some of the arts because people are trying so fucking hard not to trigger the keyboard warriors otherwise they've gotta deal with the negative PR. It causes many stars now to get very political or even almost shoving things down your throat in the same way and I do not like that, and I don't like having to listen to their new "wokeness" in my music because its for positive publicity. It feels completely fake whenever they do something for a movement now.

Cancel culture I feel has made efforts to remove anything they don't like. You like "The Notebook"? Well you know she slaps him in the movie, domestic violence. Avid Twilight fan? Edward's a creep stalker. Do you think Gone With the Wind is an amazing piece of literature? NOPE SHOWS SLAVERY. Lady Antebellum can't even be Lady Antebellum anymore. I thought the point was growing from history and showing reality, not acting like it didn't happen at all and trying to erase it...

I did have a friend who was very into the "Political correctness" side of it to the point part of her issues with her parents were when they didn't use what she felt was the sensitive language. she felt her family needed to "grow up" and realize "the way they speak isn't correct anymore." I personally found her to be pretty fucking insensitive herself. But that's another point.

I do have trouble relating to kids my age similarly, because I don't agree with all of this. They think they're making the world a better place, I think they're trying to force their views on everyone and take away my right to my own free thought and belief. I don't care if they choose not to indulge personally, but don't try to take away my choice of doing so by making a cancel campaign.

In Idaho, anyone who was protesting adverse to the BLM had pictures taken of them, put on twitter, told the people where they worked, and some of those people actually LOST THEIR JOBS. It wasn't even on company time they did it. These people want to literally destroy any thought that isn't theirs. I find it disgusting. It didn't used to affect me much over here in Idaho, but now it is. I never liked it, but now I vehemently don't like it.
 

The Cat

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Well, I am not as surrounded by it now since I closed my computer a bit. They're the most rampant through social media outlets. With the masks, my family has had a little bit of issues because people assuming if you are not wearing a mask you either don't care and are awful or you're one of those anti-maskers. My grandpa had a manager get called on him at Winco because he wasn't wearing a mask. His doctor says he shouldn't wear one because he already has issues due to his heart and the medicine he has to take for it, and wearing the mask would cause him issues with not enough oxygen within the blood. I have an anxiety disorder and the mask gives me, albeit irrational, anxiety in which makes it extremely difficult for me to wear it. We have found it easier to go to select stores that either do not mandate it, or have exceptions for health conditions. Not all of them do... But I feel my friends kind of assumed I'm one of those annoying people who won't do it rather than taking my anxiety seriously which not only made me feel like I do not matter, but made me really depressed and terrified if the next years of my life I'll have to apply for disability or something because this isn't going to end.

I am a major music listener and I feel like cancel culture, because so many people get "cancelled" for the littlest things and then they have to save face, has ruined some of the arts because people are trying so fucking hard not to trigger the keyboard warriors otherwise they've gotta deal with the negative PR. It causes many stars now to get very political or even almost shoving things down your throat in the same way and I do not like that, and I don't like having to listen to their new "wokeness" in my music because its for positive publicity. It feels completely fake whenever they do something for a movement now.

Cancel culture I feel has made efforts to remove anything they don't like. You like "The Notebook"? Well you know she slaps him in the movie, domestic violence. Avid Twilight fan? Edward's a creep stalker. Do you think Gone With the Wind is an amazing piece of literature? NOPE SHOWS SLAVERY. Lady Antebellum can't even be Lady Antebellum anymore. I thought the point was growing from history and showing reality, not acting like it didn't happen at all and trying to erase it...

I did have a friend who was very into the "Political correctness" side of it to the point part of her issues with her parents were when they didn't use what she felt was the sensitive language. she felt her family needed to "grow up" and realize "the way they speak isn't correct anymore." I personally found her to be pretty fucking insensitive herself. But that's another point.

I do have trouble relating to kids my age similarly, because I don't agree with all of this. They think they're making the world a better place, I think they're trying to force their views on everyone and take away my right to my own free thought and belief. I don't care if they choose not to indulge personally, but don't try to take away my choice of doing so by making a cancel campaign.

In Idaho, anyone who was protesting adverse to the BLM had pictures taken of them, put on twitter, told the people where they worked, and some of those people actually LOST THEIR JOBS. It wasn't even on company time they did it. These people want to literally destroy any thought that isn't theirs. I find it disgusting. It didn't used to affect me much over here in Idaho, but now it is. I never liked it, but now I vehemently don't like it.

Would you say that you're on alert for this kind of thing happening in general?
 

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Would you say that you're on alert for this kind of thing happening in general?

I think I used to just laugh at it, but within the last year I am very alert on it.
 

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The idea that one vast group of people can somehow be more awake/enlightened than others because of their politics is absurd and rooted in prideful ignorance.
 

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All sides. Hm. On my voter registration application the party choices were:

  1. Republican
  2. Democrat
  3. Other
  4. No affiliation

I chose #4.
 

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The idea that one vast group of people can somehow be more awake/enlightened than others because of their politics is absurd and rooted in prideful ignorance.

Do you believe that the Nazi's in Germany weren't fundamentally different than those who fought against them in Germany?
 

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If Trump wins (which I expect him too), I will continue on as I have for past four years.

If Biden wins, I'll continue on as I have before, but I'll have an extra skip in my step.
 

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If Kanye wins, it will be like my Birthday all over again.
 

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The year America "officially" declared war on bees.

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If Trump wins I’ll continue working toward building a better life and be happy, and if Biden wins I’ll do the exact same thing. Not that I don’t have opinions, but politicians don’t deserve that much power in my mind.

Things may get better or worse, but so what? They always have and the world has kept turning. :shrug:
 

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I'm pretty much going to keep doing what I'm doing what I'm doing. :shrug:
 

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I'd be pleased if it wasnt Trump.

Though its kind of like Aliens Vs Predator, whoever wins, we lose.
 

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Do you believe that the Nazi's in Germany weren't fundamentally different than those who fought against them in Germany?

That might have been meant as a rhetorical question and I don't want to derail this threat, but the answer seems both relevant to current affairs and complex enough to warrant serious discussion. I don't think this can be answered with a simple Yes or No.

Could be worth a threat of its own.
 

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I'm going to state things more clearly for people who may have difficulty (some of whom even have an Ivy League education) comprehending my philosophy.

I don't particularly care what you do where you live. Take Florida. You want to shoot people you spot ripping the tags off mattresses and spread disease by engaging in vapid nonsense during Spring Break, that's your business.

I do, however, have no moral objections to defending my home (by which I mean more than my apartment) with force. If Trump wins and you feel emboldened to come pay a visit to South Chicago and start causing trouble, I plan to be ready for you.
 
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