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Donald Trump's Myers-Briggs Type

Norexan

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Actually ENxJ and ISxP are similar when comes to intuition and sensation. Extroverted ISxP is ENxJ. :D
 

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Considering how Trump is a climate change denier premised on the weather outside aka gauging by what's concretely in front of him, he's definitively not an ENTJ. That a raging Se-dom.

Actually, as a side topic, this is a great way to tell the difference between Si and Se. Si looks to the concrete present and compares it to the past where the past is the measuring bar. Se looks to the concrete present as the bar to measure by.
 

raskol

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Considering how Trump is a climate change denier premised on the weather outside aka gauging by what's concretely in front of him, he's definitively not an ENTJ. That a raging Se-dom.
I disagree with that assessment. First off, we never have access to what people actually believe or think beyond the public veneer, and I would never take a tweet or public address at face value.

Secondly, I don't see why it would be indicative of Se dom to make statements that run counter to a particular scientific consensus.

Actually, as a side topic, this is a great way to tell the difference between Si and Se. Si looks to the concrete present and compares it to the past where the past is the measuring bar. Se looks to the concrete present as the bar to measure by.
That's very much on topic, and I think it's obvious that Trump displays a Si blindspot. His approach is clearly on the NiSe/SeNi axis, as is the case for both ESTP and ENTJ. I don't think anyone is contending that.
 

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Considering how Trump is a climate change denier premised on the weather outside aka gauging by what's concretely in front of him, he's definitively not an ENTJ. That a raging Se-dom.

Actually, as a side topic, this is a great way to tell the difference between Si and Se. Si looks to the concrete present and compares it to the past where the past is the measuring bar. Se looks to the concrete present as the bar to measure by.

that's pretty interesting re si vs se.

fwiw, he's always come off as an ESTP to me.
 

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Considering how Trump is a climate change denier premised on the weather outside aka gauging by what's concretely in front of him, he's definitively not an ENTJ. That a raging Se-dom.

Actually dom Se would see "what is in front of him" (facts) but ENTJ can deny it (Te-Ni (own fantasy) instead Te-Se (facts) ). They tend live in the fantasy world not real one so they will push harder their fantasies until the task is completed! It is very important for dom Se too see "what is in front of him" because dom Se live their live according to what is happened around them #popularity #trends and then prefer use logic (Ti) leading by action (Se) to achieve popularity in the group (Fe) because only with #trends they can achieve their Ni. ENTJ don't care about it. They don't search #popularity but work like a living magnet (EJ stuff) for the group and if world don't love them they don't care about it (reasoning instead values Te > Fe) ;)
 

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WHY TRUMP IS ENTJ? :bye:

Smart Ss are often arrogant and have this size of their ego because they perform the fixation of sensory capabilities that help intuition growing inside them, while smart Ns do not rely so much on their intuition because they see a wider spectrum of possible facts by the same. A big brain tends to be greater than what it is! So as brain is smarter it wants to justify its smartness. It is very hard to put smart and successful brain inside some box which is the case of Trump.

It is very simple. If you are smart or you think that you are smart you already has feeling of supremacy toward other so you want to take your 3rd and 4th function. If this is not true well how can you explain a lot of xSTP you think they are xNTJ because they grab their dark functions, they want to cross the bridge behind the confront zone and zone of the growing and challenge themselves with their weakness. They want to be strong, to see behind the walls of kingdom and face their enemy! Every smart man takes a risk and only smart one make fool of himself at least one in his life. There is a lot ISTJ who enjoy to take drugs and alcohol (inf Ne) which contrary to their dom Si who take take for their health. inf Ne can see also 100.000 possibilities and make a then dom Si make a plan to guard their way of life. So anyone who say ISTJ cannot see possibilities this is probably not very smart ISTJ or ISTJ who doesn't live many years, who know nothing what is behind the door of their kingdom (Si-Te) until war of comes on their door (Fi) and change (Ne) their life forever.


For the same reason Trump no matter what he says, no matter of facts (S) which categorize him as ESTP. He is not ESTP. He is just successful businessman in top of his cerrrer as no more or less than president of US. So instead build his image as ENFJ and just get people what they wants to hear from him as any politician with idealistic lies about people and other bullshit HE WANTS FROM THE WORLD TO SEE HIMSELF AS A MAN WHO DO THINGS. AS A SHOWMAN. MAN OF ACTION! He wants from the group (Te) to see himself as ESFP like literally. As the one who get the girls, curse people and stuff. ;)

Donald J Trump ENTJ 8w7 so/sx :D
 

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Obvious ESTP imo.
Also [MENTION=34350]Norexan[/MENTION], it appears you misinterpreted the comment about climate change. The argument was that he DOES see what is right in front of him - only what is right in front of him (which is characteristic of unhealthy Se dominance).
He uses what he can physically see to say that climate change doesn't exist. His ability to manipulate a crowd and say exactly the right thing to promote him shows more Tert Fe.
Also, from a linguistic side, it is sometimes almost like he has invented his own "language" - could indicate Ti usage.
With his entrepreneurial background, it makes sense that he'd be an ESTP.
 

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Obvious ESTP imo.
Also [MENTION=34350]Norexan[/MENTION], it appears you misinterpreted the comment about climate change. The argument was that he DOES see what is right in front of him - only what is right in front of him (which is characteristic of unhealthy Se dominance).
He uses what he can physically see to say that climate change doesn't exist. His ability to manipulate a crowd and say exactly the right thing to promote him shows more Tert Fe.
Also, from a linguistic side, it is sometimes almost like he has invented his own "language" - could indicate Ti usage.
With his entrepreneurial background, it makes sense that he'd be an ESTP.

Trump comment to climate change was a joke. Trust me this is ENTJ and ENFP stuff.
 

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WHY TRUMP IS ENTJ? :bye:

Smart Ss are often arrogant and have this size of their ego because they perform the fixation of sensory capabilities that help intuition growing inside them, while smart Ns do not rely so much on their intuition because they see a wider spectrum of possible facts by the same. A big brain tends to be greater than what it is! So as brain is smarter it wants to justify its smartness. It is very hard to put smart and successful brain inside some box which is the case of Trump.

It is very simple. If you are smart or you think that you are smart you already has feeling of supremacy toward other so you want to take your 3rd and 4th function. If this is not true well how can you explain a lot of xSTP you think they are xNTJ because they grab their dark functions, they want to cross the bridge behind the confront zone and zone of the growing and challenge themselves with their weakness. They want to be strong, to see behind the walls of kingdom and face their enemy! Every smart man takes a risk and only smart one make fool of himself at least one in his life. There is a lot ISTJ who enjoy to take drugs and alcohol (inf Ne) which contrary to their dom Si who take take for their health. inf Ne can see also 100.000 possibilities and make a then dom Si make a plan to guard their way of life. So anyone who say ISTJ cannot see possibilities this is probably not very smart ISTJ or ISTJ who doesn't live many years, who know nothing what is behind the door of their kingdom (Si-Te) until war of comes on their door (Fi) and change (Ne) their life forever.


For the same reason Trump no matter what he says, no matter of facts (S) which categorize him as ESTP. He is not ESTP. He is just successful businessman in top of his cerrrer as no more or less than president of US. So instead build his image as ENFJ and just get people what they wants to hear from him as any politician with idealistic lies about people and other bullshit HE WANTS FROM THE WORLD TO SEE HIMSELF AS A MAN WHO DO THINGS. AS A SHOWMAN. MAN OF ACTION! He wants from the group (Te) to see himself as ESFP like literally. As the one who get the girls, curse people and stuff. ;)

Donald J Trump ENTJ 8w7 so/sx :D

Still not convinced of his ENTJness. ESTP trolling and ENTJ trolling have different flavors to them. Trump comes off as just constantly moving the goal posts because once they are down they don’t necessarily exist anymore, and therefore there’s nothing to denote that such a thing is occurring via proof of them ever existing.
 

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Still not convinced of his ENTJness. ESTP trolling and ENTJ trolling have different flavors to them. Trump comes off as just constantly moving the goal posts because once they are down they don’t necessarily exist anymore, and therefore there’s nothing to denote that such a thing is occurring via proof of them ever existing.

ENTJ don't troll (jokes via action), they just tell you "funny" jokes like ENFP.
 

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Trump comment to climate change was a joke. Trust me this is ENTJ and ENFP stuff.

"Trust me" oh shit guess I should just take your word for it, stranger on the internet. HHAHAAHAH NO!
 

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"Trust me" oh shit guess I should just take your word for it, stranger on the internet. HHAHAAHAH NO!

It is very hard to put smart and successful brain inside some box which is the case of Trump.

Here is classic ENTJ sense of humor


ISFJ: "Did you learn something from the past?"
ENTJ: "You are like a dinosaur!"
ISFJ: "And what are you?"
ENTJ "The meteor"

BOOM :D
 

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Here is classic ENTJ sense of humor


ISFJ: "Did you learn something from the past?"
ENTJ: "You are like a dinosaur!"
ISFJ: "And what are you?"
ENTJ "The meteor"

BOOM :D

Sounds like something I'd say, am I ENTJ?
 

Norexan

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Sounds like something I'd say, am I ENTJ?

But you are not serious. The guy get killed.

Or you are ENFP. Because ENTJ and ENFP shere same sanse of humor like INTJ and INFP, ENTP and ENFJ etc :)
 

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Here is classic ENTJ sense of humor


ISFJ: "Did you learn something from the past?"
ENTJ: "You are like a dinosaur!"
ISFJ: "And what are you?"
ENTJ "The meteor"

BOOM :D

but no one cried in this forest so did the ENTJ truly knock down a joke tree? hmmmm :thinking:
 

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I'm amused that anyone thinks this guy is a Te type, considering his overt distaste for institutions that involve practical, extraverted logic, and his habit of rubbing fact checkers the wrong way with his statements. He doesn't really give credence to anything Te. Ironically, contrast with Nixon.
 
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