[Te] Question For TJs

[ceecee]

I didn’t think you were attacking the weak and vulnerable, I understood it as contrasting to illustrate a point. I do see how it is an unfair standard. One the reasons I asked the OP is because the last time I bothered to wonder what it’s like being a TJ (on another forum far, far away) most individuals preferred to pass themselves off as invulnerable. It seemed a bit odd at the time. I wondered if it was the same here. I’m really glad you answered. You seem very genuine.

And about the stupid question bit, it’s an occasional tactic of mine to ask simple questions to get people talking. Even though it often causes them to think I’m benighted for awhile. You didn’t hurt my feelings.

Yeah, I've seen this too. It's not true but they aren't able to ask for help much of the time either so - invulnerable. Or they're young, extremely know it all dickheads.

 

[/DG/]

How about more personal examples of what the OP asked for in her not stupid question instead of arguing and insulting? Thanks.

Excuse me, that is not the way the forum is run! We prefer to needlessly correct each other over simple things like spelling and grammar!

 

[rav3n]

Let's go back to function theory 101.

Dom - driver
Aux - supports and augments the driver but can be enslaved by the driver in the unhealthy
Tert - relief function to the dom
Inferior - in opposition to the dom

 

[Norexan]

That's not true. It's a relief function. Dom and inferior are in opposition.

No. Ni and Se, Te and Fi, Ne and Si etc are OPPORTUNISTIC FUNCTIONS. They fight against each other.

 

[rav3n]

Let's go back to function theory 101.

Dom - driver
Aux - supports and augments the driver but can be enslaved by the driver in the unhealthy
Tert - relief function to the dom
Inferior - in opposition to the dom

No. Ni and Se, Te and Fi, Ne and Si etc are OPPORTUNISTIC FUNCTION. They fight against each other.

Refer to above. You're fabricating your perspective.

 

[Jaguar]

Quit listening to the lady at her kitchen table with curlers in her hair. Just because she fucked up Jung, doesn't mean you have to as well.

 

[Norexan]

Refer to above. You're fabricating your perspective.

it is not my perspective.

Si (should be) is opportunist of Ne(could be)

I know typing and MBTI is general how Fe see the world in external and internal way, and every description try to be present to people in pure Fe way but this is not how NOTHING IN NATURE works!

 

[rav3n]

it is not my perspective.

Si (should be) is opportunist of Ne(could be)

I know typing and MBTI is general how Fe see the world in external and internal way, and every description try to be present to people in pure Fe way but this is not how NOTHING IN NATURE works!

Aka pure and simply fabrication on your part.

 

[Norexan]

Quit listening to the lady at her kitchen table with curlers in her hair. Just because she fucked up Jung, doesn't mean you have to as well.

Jung has 8 types.

 

[Jaguar]

Jung has 8 types.

Transcend.

 

[Norexan]

Aka pure and simply fabrication on your part.

yeah some weak Se which want to make sense things on the world, which wants to improve things, invent things you know instead work everything by the book of theories with flaws which doesn't work in reality at all...

 

[Metis]

And about the stupid question bit, it’s an occasional tactic of mine to ask simple questions to get people talking. Even though it often causes them to think I’m benighted for awhile. You didn’t hurt my feelings.

Aw, Hermit's playing the naive ingenue, but she has an ingenious plan up her sleeve. You showed your hand, reclusive mastermind of the forest.

Everyone needs to improvise, to some degree. I've definitely seen TJs improvise and do it well. Sometimes, the best way to create the freedom to improvise is to have your p's and q's organized, whatever the fuck that means.

 

[Jaguar]

Because Jaguar is the biggest manipulated troll on typeC so far!

"As ENTJ you don't have active Se. You Se is passive and only active in stress and only what can cause is HARMING to yourself and people but self is more important...."

Ah, yes. I must be a "troll" because I disagree with the bullshit you're posting.

 

[Coriolis]

I don't say it is possible but for stereotyped INTJ, ENTJ... IT IS NOT!

And therein lies the flaw with this whole idea: there is no such thing in RL as a stereotyped anything.

Everyone needs to improvise, to some degree. I've definitely seen TJs improvise and do it well. Sometimes, the best way to create the freedom to improvise is to have your p's and q's organized, whatever the fuck that means.

To the extent that INTJs can improvise, it is mostly based on this: having thought through the situation well enough ahead of time that we have been able to anticipate most things that will come our way. Not foolproof, just our particular way of dealing with things.

I'm not calling you irritating and I don't think it's a stupid question. And no I'm not attacking the weak and vulnerable at all. I'm only saying, because of the low value we place on people to begin with, one group is expected to fail and one is expected to never fail. You see what I'm getting at and how that's a standard unfair to both groups?

This is a bit of an oversimplification. TJs, depending on the flavor, are expected to be spectacular failures at certain things, like relationships or offering emotional support. Similarly, other types are expected to be a natural at such things. This is just more stereotyping, of course, but shows that even the stereotypes are more multifaceted than all that.

 

[rav3n]

yeah some weak Se which want to make sense things on the world, which wants to improve things, invent things you know instead work everything by the book of theories with flaws which doesn't work in reality at all...

Not everyone subscribes to magical thinking.

 

[highlander]

Going in unprepared and just hoping for the best

Preparation is relative. I enjoy doing things I haven't done before. I guess I would be unprepared at first but I will tend to dive in and figure it out and I have a general sense of high confidence that I can do that with most anything I set my mind to. For important work meetings where I need to present something, I definitely like to be prepared

 

[Norexan]

And therein lies the flaw with this whole idea: there is no such thing in RL as a stereotyped anything.

Stereotyped i.e. type by the book. And yes they exist.

 

[Tilt]

No. Ni and Se, Te and Fi, Ne and Si etc are OPPORTUNISTIC FUNCTIONS. They fight against each other.

Where's your source?

And Jaguar is a well-established member, nowhere close to a troll.

 

[Norexan]

Not everyone subscribes to magical thinking.

I know. Not everyone has NiTe or TeNi.

 

[Norexan]

Where's your source?

Si = suppose to be
Ne = could be

Just put ENTP next to ISTJ and see what will happen