Inferior Function?

[hurl3y4456]

It got me thinking that if the inferior function relates to the proportion of energy utilized relative to the dominant function, then it must not exist under certain cases. For instance, suppose you are some type, say ENFP. To achieve such a type, it must follow that the proportion in which you use Intuition exceeds that of sensing and vice versa for the other functions. Now, is N weakly exceeds S, then Ne is weakly bound to the mind...meaning that Si and Ne will be in competition. Hence, Si will exhibit a higher propensity to develop relative to the case in which N tends to 1. Surely, Si may be inferior to Ne in terms of use, but not at the same degree as two polar magnets repelling each other....which would exist for the extreme cases. There may be slight repulsion, but the mind would shift preferences more frequently. For this reason, mistypes would usually exist for those with weakly bound functions.

 

[Norexan]

Easiest part of typing
Inferior function -> this thing attacks constantly in your life.

For example ENxP will for only thinking about routine (repeat same days over and over again) will FREAK OUT because their Ne want to explore many things, to get pieces of picture instead already know picture and repeat it. ESxP will go into another extreme and that is timing (waiting, get somewhere in time, acting in time) because for Se every time is a GOOD time. Why? Because for Se life is too short to wait something instead acting. Se like Ne wants to MOVE, not be feel like they are in one place! If you want to EP leave you just attack their Ni/Si - leave them in agony of waiting/routine/slowing and there will be leaving you! Bind their moving with chain of eternal cyclist waiting! Limit them by rules and obligations! Make them FEEL like they are standing in ONE PLACE! (they make decisions both with Feeling and Thinking function) BOOM. Your EP is gone.

 

[hurl3y4456]

Easiest part of typing
Inferior function -> this thing attacks constantly in your life.

For example ENxP will for only thinking about routine (repeat same days over and over again) will FREAK OUT because their Ne want to explore many things, to get pieces of picture instead already know picture and repeat it. ESxP will go into another extreme and that is timing (waiting, get somewhere in time, acting in time) because for Se every time is a GOOD time. Why? Because for Se life is too short to wait something instead acting. Se like Ne wants to MOVE, not be feel like they are in one place! If you want to EP leave you just attack their Ni/Si - leave them in agony of waiting/routine/slowing and there will be leaving you! Bind their moving with chain of eternal cyclist waiting! Limit them by rules and obligations! Make them FEEL like they are standing in ONE PLACE! (they make decisions both with Feeling and Thinking function) BOOM. Your EP is gone.

Hmm...how deeply inflicted someone would be by their inferior function is a function of divergence of the dominant function from the auxiliary/tertiary axis. So, an ESFP with very strong Se will have a higher probability of an Ni meltdown because they spend much less time contemplating the meaning of an event. Hence, overdeveloped/underdeveloped dominant functions. There's so much variation for each type that some can seem like hybrids. Also, the environment plays a key role in molding the functions in certain ways, so weaker functions can be developed to different degrees. One INTP may develop Fe much faster than another INTP due to the role of Ti within the current environment and differing associations with people. By the Butterfly Effect, your functions will be refined depending on the path you take. Hence, you may dodge the next bullet as the functions are slowly refined in a positive manner.

 

[Norexan]

Hmm...how deeply inflicted someone would be by their inferior function is a function of divergence of the dominant function from the auxiliary/tertiary axis. So, an ESFP with very strong Se will have a higher probability of an Ni meltdown because they spend much less time contemplating the meaning of an event. Hence, overdeveloped/underdeveloped dominant functions. There's so much variation for each type that some can seem like hybrids. Also, the environment plays a key role in molding the functions in certain ways, so weaker functions can be developed to different degrees. One INTP may develop Fe much faster than another INTP due to the role of Ti within the current environment and differing associations with people. By the Butterfly Effect, your functions will be refined depending on the path you take. Hence, you may dodge the next bullet as the functions are slowly refined in a positive manner.

It is not about how function is developed. Inferior function is something that attack your life. It is something that you cannon control no matter how hard you think you can!
IxTP will fly away for every trait pushing them to be more "socialize , in every trait of be emotional consumed by other people.
They want to go when they want not when you demand! (worse case if your Se ESFP "here and now" attack INTP!)

In short: Every pushing of their Fe ends as tragedy for your relationship. Don't be demand instead wait them to finish analization of your importance.

 

[hurl3y4456]

It is not about how function is developed. Inferior function is something that attack your life. It is something that you cannon control no matter how hard you think you can!
IxTP will fly away for every trait pushing them to be more "socialize , in every trait of be emotional consumed by other people.
They want to go when they want not when you demand! (worse case if your Se ESFP "here and now" attack INTP!)

In short: Every pushing of their Fe ends as tragedy for your relationship. Don't be demand instead wait them to finish analization of your importance.

Yeah, I could see that one could have SOME control over the inferior, but it lies there dormant ready to explode at any moment depending on the circumstances. So, the pressure will build up over time til some trigger initiates it....Hence, you are correct about stating that it will inevitably attack your life.

 

[Norexan]

Yeah, I could see that one could have SOME control over the inferior, but it lies there dormant ready to explode at any moment depending on the circumstances. So, the pressure will build up over time til some trigger initiates it....Hence, you are correct about stating that it will inevitably attack your life.

Talking about ESxP and timing (waiting, get somewhere in time, act in time, prepare for the time that is ahead) and leading Se "here and now!"

PS: I can use any other type it is all the same story.

 

[hurl3y4456]

Talking about ESxP and timing (waiting, get somewhere in time, act in time, prepare for the time that is ahead) and leading Se "here and now!"

PS: I can use any other type it is all the same story.

It's circumstance dependent...Fi inferior will be initiated if a vision is clouded by the current situation (ENTJ/ESTJ)....Fe inferior will be initiated if their thinking process is immediately cut off (ISTP/INTP)....Te inferior will be initiated if their value system is trespassed (INFP/ISFP). My Mom is an ESFP, and it's quite evident that her inferior function (Ni) is in use when she clams up during certain situations (i.e: I forgot to call her when I stated I may stop by), and she assumes something horrible happened to me (car crash, death, exc).....Her inferior was initiated by my lack of responsibility to communicate that I wouldn't be able to stop by. She is extremely attuned to her surroundings (Picks up minute details and focuses heavily on appearance == High Se). I still do not know my inferior function, but it's possible that I am ESXP (genetic/environmental correlation?)...yet my weakness (from what I've been told) is poor attention to detail, and constant loss of items (maybe ADD? but that would usually imply I over E).

 

[Metis]

Talking about ESxP and timing (waiting, get somewhere in time, act in time, prepare for the time that is ahead) and leading Se "here and now!"

PS: I can use any other type it is all the same story.

What does that have to do with Ni?

 

[hurl3y4456]

What does that have to do with Ni?

Not much...that's indicative of Se as stated, but "preparing for the time that is ahead" can be a consequence of inferior Ni because they do not want to project themselves far into the future or lead themselves in a situation in which the environment would be unexpected....permitting preparation/action.

 

[Norexan]

What does that have to do with Ni?

Ni is timing, sensing for the time
Se is the opposite - sensing for now.

Ne is how something could be (get pieces of picture)
Si is how something should be (get picture)

 

[Metis]

Ni is timing, sensing for the time
Se is the opposite - sensing for now.

Ne is how something could be (get pieces of picture)
Si is how something should be (get picture)

I mean, how do you see Ni as being about time/timing?

 

[Norexan]

Not much...that's indicative of Se as stated, but "preparing for the time that is ahead" can be a consequence of inferior Ni because they do not want to project themselves far into the future or lead themselves in a situation in which the environment would be unexpected....permitting preparation/action.

SP don't prepare for the time (active), they live in time (passive)

 

[Forever]

I wouldn’t say the inferior function is something that keeps attacking lol, I think dom/tert loops are the most frequent problem with cognition when aux function is devalued because of opposite orientation.

The interior function is not even first thought of, so it’s definitely not reactionary and requires much focus. It only seems to show up when someone is starting to be really stressed out and it is then used improperly and quite immaturely. Not even in a cool way either.

 

[Norexan]

I mean, how do you see Ni as being about time/timing?

Ni is not about time, Ni is THE TIME. It is observing function with ability to wait or create right circumstances for right action.

mode
dom Ni -> wait and create (Falcon)
aux Ni -> create, wait -> stress -> act in right time (Eagle)
ter Ni -> wait or act in right time -> (Cheetah)
inf Ni -> act in right time -> (Leo)

 

[hurl3y4456]

SP don't prepare for the time (active), they live in time (passive)

Yeah, I realized your previous post contradicted my statement (Se "preparing for time ahead")....but I was thinking in terms of Se dom trying to take action in the immediate moment so that unexpected outcomes (fueled from their mind) won't come into existence. I.e: ESFP Mom called the police after I forgot to give her a call.....Inferior Ni will not project nearly as far as Dom Ni, and is mainly pessimistic as opposed to optimistic. I'd say ENTJ/INTJ's can be quite good at chess as it requires thinking far ahead to predict a particular outcome (at-least my ENTJ friend was very good at moving up the ladder in chess).

 

[Norexan]

I wouldn’t say the inferior function is something that keeps attacking lol, I think dom/tert loops are the most frequent problem with cognition when aux function is devalued because of opposite orientation.

The interior function is not even first thought of, so it’s definitely not reactionary and requires much focus. It only seems to show up when someone is starting to be really stressed out and it is then used improperly and quite immaturely. Not even in a cool way either.

So you as INFJ don't have problem if something unexpected happen to you?
Or sensing of world full of noises... Right.

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Yeah, I realized your previous post contradicted my statement (Se "preparing for time ahead")...

I talk about Ni not Se.

 

[Metis]

I wouldn’t say the inferior function is something that keeps attacking lol, I think dom/tert loops are the most frequent problem with cognition when aux function is devalued because of opposite orientation.

The interior function is not even first thought of, so it’s definitely not reactionary and requires much focus. It only seems to show up when someone is starting to be really stressed out and it is then used improperly and quite immaturely. Not even in a cool way either.

I definitely devalue Ti, because I don't like getting bogged down, trapped in my mind, and would rather work on developing better Te and getting things done. I could sit and overthink all day, but it doesn't do me any good.

As for Si, I use it to work on Te, but it isn't that effective. I'm terrible at sticking to my to-do list. It's good to make notes on certain things so I don't forget, but in some ways, I think it actually interferes with my ability to get things done, because I feel tied to and bogged down by the list, and it's like being pulled into a mud puddle.

 

[Metis]

Ni is not about time, Ni is THE TIME. It is observing function with ability to wait or create right circumstances for right action.

mode
dom Ni -> wait and create (Falcon)
aux Ni -> create, wait -> stress -> act in right time (Eagle)
ter Ni -> wait or act in right time -> (Cheetah)
inf Ni -> act in right time -> (Leo)

Interesting. So how would you relate this to timing in music? Do you think Ni is an asset towards that? It sounds like it could be, but what about Se as well?

 

[Norexan]

Interesting. So how would you relate this to timing in music? Do you think Ni is an asset towards that? It sounds like it could be, but what about Se as well?

Ni wants one sound to be perfected.
Se explore new sounds.

 

[Metis]

Ni wants one sound to be perfected.
Se explore new sounds.

I'm talking about a sense of musical timing, though. Not everyone has much of a sense of it.