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What is the hardest thing about being a man?

Yuurei

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Either way, it comes down to what "big things" means.

A careless mother is going to have a dead child.

And have you seen the “ Dad’s doin it wrong.” ” Memes? Good Lord as harshly as Mothes are judged -most,y by other other Mothers-they’d end up charged with abuse.
 

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And have you seen the “ Dad’s doin it wrong.” ” Memes? Good Lord as harshly as Mothes are judged -most,y by other other Mothers-they’d end up charged with abuse.

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Women who place these demands on men just because they are men are lazy. Men should stop enabling this behavior, however much it may stroke their egos.

I don't think it's fair to call the logical decision to use the most appropriate tool for any given situation laziness. You don't send your tank character around back to cast crappy healing spells on your party, and you don't send your glass cannon to the front lines to absorb damage. Having the 3x stronger partner haul furniture up the stairs and assemble it while the 3x better cook partner fixes dinner is about most efficiently and intelligently using your resources to move forward together. The only ego stroking involved is the reward for accomplishing tasks that you're good at and specialize in. Fighting against that, for the sake of some worldview with no basis in empiricism, is just illogical and foolish- tactically speaking. Strategically, is it really worth it to waste time grinding all the members of your party into flat builds with identical stats? Men and women are on the same team when they are together. It's not about 'winning' over the other, that's a psychopathic/sociopathic view of romance.
 

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From personal experience I think men feel pressure to be strong in all ways and any deviation from this is often shunned by others. Men also feel like this certain pressure to like hmmm how to put it like be providers for others and are expected to be strong and independent. Plus on a more legalistic scale family courts often treat men unfairly.
 

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One thing I'd like to add, I don't know if I'd consider it the hardest, but it doesn't always make things easier, is having to worry about being called a misogynist or shamed any time I vent about anything any women do.

agreed...mostly happens when people have only a cursory understanding of who they are speaking to (in my experience)... makes discussing social issues outside of those you know a pain in the ass...
 

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I don't think it's fair to call the logical decision to use the most appropriate tool for any given situation laziness.
That is not what I called laziness. Please reread, and do not misrepresent my comments.
 

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That is not what I called laziness. Please reread, and do not misrepresent my comments.

They seem to have been edited since I last quoted them. Please just clarify if you feel you've been misrepresented, instead of accusing someone of doing it deliberately.
 

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Sometimes it seems that no matter what I say or do or how I say or do it, some women will always see me as a creep/ potential rapist/ threat to their well being. In turn this almost makes me want to apologize just for being male and existing.
 

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Being forced to rely on women for my sexual health and well being.

This...

Sometimes it seems that no matter what I say or do or how I say or do it, some women will always see me as a creep/ potential rapist/ threat to their well being. In turn this almost makes me want to apologize just for being male and existing.

...may have something to do with it. Why are you assigning fault to an entire gender when this is about you and your issues? Why do you think women, or anyone for that matter, owe you anything?
 

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Why are you assigning fault to an entire gender
What specific "fault" do you think I'm assigning?
Why do you think women, or anyone for that matter, owe you anything?
They don't owe me anything. Why do you think that I would think that they owe me anything? I understand that you're merely trying to "help" here but before you do you should try and understand that the comments that you're quoting me on aren't consistent with your interpretation, at least in the sense that there is no fault, blame or debt within this context.
 

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Getting your foreskin caught in your pants zipper. :greatscott:
 

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Sometimes it seems that no matter what I say or do or how I say or do it, some women will always see me as a creep/ potential rapist/ threat to their well being. In turn this almost makes me want to apologize just for being male and existing.
There is some truth here, though it is just a special case of making assumptions about an individual based on group membership. The minority of men who do assault women can make some women - perhaps those who are less confident, educated, or mature - view all men with mistrust, much as acts of terrorism by Muslims lead many westerners to fear all Muslims and Arabs. Assuming you treat women respectfully as fellow humans, the best near term solution is simply to ignore someone who believes the worst of you despite the evidence of your own behavior. The long term solution is to reduce assault and harassment of women, which will require continued change in our culture, helped if not led by the many men who do treat women respectfully.

They seem to have been edited since I last quoted them. Please just clarify if you feel you've been misrepresented, instead of accusing someone of doing it deliberately.
I did not edit my original post. How about stick to my wording rather than substituting your own which has a quite different meaning.

You quoted my comment "Women who place these demands on men just because they are men are lazy." Then you wrote:

I don't think it's fair to call the logical decision to use the most appropriate tool for any given situation laziness.
This suggests that a man is always "the most appropriate tool" for the job. So what jobs are we talking about here? My comment was in reply to [MENTION=19700]asynartetic[/MENTION]. I had summarized his observation as "men have to take responsibility for things, especially the dirty or dangerous ones". In the broadest sense, "things" can include just about anything, from paying the bills to caring for a sick child to fixing the washing machine. It is hard to imagine a man being "the most appropriate tool" in every single case. In fact, if we consider only statistical averages, I can think of quite a few "things" where average women's abilities make them the better tool.

Now let's look at dirty and dangerous. For millennia, childbirth was one of the most dangerous things people do, and one that cannot be outsourced to men. As for "dirty", well caring for children and elders, which has customarily fallen to women, is full of the dirty: poop, snot, vomit, blood, food, you name it. Women have long been relied on to clean up the world's messes, whether literal or emotional. Getting away from personal care, there is nothing about men that make them more suited to facing danger or messy work. Men on average are at an advantage only for those tasks that require large physical size, or brute force strength, but then they are the "ideal tool" not because of their gender, but because of their strength and stature. Many men would not be up to the task (e.g. Stephen Hawking, for an extreme example), while some women might.

Bottom line: deciding who is "the most appropriate tool" should be done based on individual attributes. Anything less is lazy. Most times when a woman expects a man to do something just because he is a man, it is something she is quite able to do herself. Perhaps he should do it, but if so that is due to circumstances and individual ability and interest, not gender.
 

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I did not edit my original post.

Well someone did, because they followed it up with editing mine to match. Maybe I inadvertently mangled the words between the quote blocks trying to target a line with my phone? It's possible. Either way it doesn't alter the meaning enough to even make a difference now that I think about it. So yes, lets stick with the wording provided here:

How about stick to my wording rather than substituting your own which has a quite different meaning.
You quoted my comment "Women who place these demands on men just because they are men are lazy." Then you wrote:

"I don't think it's fair to call the logical decision to use the most appropriate tool for any given situation laziness. You don't send your tank character around back to cast crappy healing spells on your party, and you don't send your glass cannon to the front lines to absorb damage. Having the 3x stronger partner haul furniture up the stairs and assemble it while the 3x better cook partner fixes dinner is about most efficiently and intelligently using your resources to move forward together. The only ego stroking involved is the reward for accomplishing tasks that you're good at and specialize in. Fighting against that, for the sake of some worldview with no basis in empiricism, is just illogical and foolish- tactically speaking. Strategically, is it really worth it to waste time grinding all the members of your party into flat builds with identical stats? Men and women are on the same team when they are together. It's not about 'winning' over the other, that's a psychopathic/sociopathic view of romance."

This suggests that a man is always "the most appropriate tool" for the job. So what jobs are we talking about here?

Yeah, gonna stop you right there. How, exactly, does the RPG analogy I provided suggest that I think the tank character is the best character for every task when I literally indicated the opposite?

Bottom line: deciding who is "the most appropriate tool" should be done based on individual attributes. Anything less is lazy. Most times when a woman expects a man to do something just because he is a man, it is something she is quite able to do herself. Perhaps he should do it, but if so that is due to circumstances and individual ability and interest, not gender.

Bottom line: this was my entire bottom line. I have no idea what you're railing against here. The only difference is that I am apparently aware of how base stats are rolled, while you seem to be stuck in the deluision that they are all rolled completely randomly without gender modifiers- which is statistically, obviously, and provably false.
 

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Being expected to marry and reproduce, though I think this applies to all. In my cultural background, men are usually expected to do this after they graduate and conscripted. I was around 15 or something when I said "How about no?" to this. I have been living a better life ever since.
 

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Being constantly evaluated as being a threat by people. And the only way to get some people off your back is to be a threat.
 

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Being constantly evaluated as being a threat by people. And the only way to get some people off your back is to be a threat.

You know, that's a good point. I probably get away with being kinda aggressive more than a man would.
 

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