What's Your Opinion of My Type Based on My Video?

[Xena]

I was getting at something else with my second question, so I'll rephrase it, and looks like there was a typo in the third question... oops. So here they are again.

What is the experience like, when you start to get bored?
What is it that is most satisfying to you when you change it up?

It feels confining....because the only reason I'm bored is because I'm being forced usually to do something that I have no interest in. Or if I'm having a conversation with someone that isn't interesting (this happens a lot with the Fe people in my life, and the INFP that gets pretty abstract on topics like politics...which I have absolutely no interest in.) At work, I feel resigned to the situation, so I just have to find a way to make it more interesting....which is what I had mentioned before. If it's a conversation, I get irritated that the other person is monologuing and not picking up that I'm not really interested in what they're saying. So I try to show my disinterest in a way that's subtle at first, and I try not to hurt their feelings. If they still don't get the hint, then my frustration level compels me to be more direct to extricate myself from the situation. When I start to get bored, and I easily have the freedom to change the situation, I quickly find some way to remedy it. I avoid discomfort pretty well...and being bored is uncomfortable.

What is most satisfying is when my curiosity is engaged... like stumbling upon a new interest is so energizing to me. There's so much to explore with the topic. I love that feeling of finding a new interest to immerse myself in.


Here are some more questions.

Would it be fair to say when you start an activity it is not boring, but as you continue with the activity you start to get bored? What is it makes this activity (that was interesting when you started it) "boring".

Yes...the engagement curve tends to level out, then drops. It could be for different reasons....sometimes it was just a phase I went through and realized I liked the "idea" of the topic more than actually "doing" it.... like with camping, backpacking, etc.... I researched all about that stuff, bought some gear, then never went. The realization of the information wasn't near as thrilling as exploring the information and daydreaming about it. I think I just idolized it and wanted to try on that identity for awhile.

Sometimes I'll get bored because other things come into focus and take more of a priority.... Or I'll get distracted by other fun topics that are even more attractive to me. So those new ones take precedence.

Would it be fair to say that getting information on subjects that interest you is the most enjoyable activity?

Yes. But, I would also say when I daydream about what it would be like to be a part of a band and sing harmony (if I could sing well) with someone and play music....that would also be something extremely enjoyable. However, I don't think that's a realistic dream.

 

[robert666]

What is most satisfying is when my curiosity is engaged... like stumbling upon a new interest is so energizing to me. There's so much to explore with the topic. I love that feeling of finding a new interest to immerse myself in.

What is it like to explore a new topic?

Yes...the engagement curve tends to level out, then drops. It could be for different reasons....sometimes it was just a phase I went through and realized I liked the "idea" of the topic more than actually "doing" it.... like with camping, backpacking, etc.... I researched all about that stuff, bought some gear, then never went. The realization of the information wasn't near as thrilling as exploring the information and daydreaming about it. I think I just idolized it and wanted to try on that identity for awhile.

It's not a phase you went through if you are still doing it. Are you still doing it?

Sometimes I'll get bored because other things come into focus and take more of a priority.... Or I'll get distracted by other fun topics that are even more attractive to me. So those new ones take precedence.

How big a part of your life is this?


Here's a quote from a previous post:

This is a really hard question for me to answer because I don't know exactly what it is that I'll find exciting.... I think the common thread seems to be a sense of serendipity and adventure. It feels good to give in to my impulses and let them steer me. Like going for a night out with a partner and discovering a new place to eat, then afterwards stumbling upon a place that plays live music and has amazing ambiance.

In this quote you were not sure how to describe what makes something exciting. Are you in a better position now to explain what makes things exciting for you?

 

[Xena]

What is it like to explore a new topic?

It's like walking in a murky forest, the mystery of what might be uncovered in it's depths is beckoning. And as you explore, slowly the murk fades and the objects within begin to gain clarity. You start to be able to know where you're going and can navigate the forest. After awhile, you can see things for what they are, and how they're related....

The unknown that holds promising treasure is where I explore. Maybe it's the same for everyone, but the only difference is what someone considers "treasure"?

Another way to think about it is like when playing a video game and you just start out, so most of the map is black. But as you continue to explore the territory, the map starts to become fully fleshed out....

It's not a phase you went through if you are still doing it. Are you still doing it?

I mean I might have only had interest in a topic because of a phase, then I would drop it once the phase passes. My parents frequently knew this about me and would find it amusing when I got so excited about something that they knew would probably change within the next couple months. You wouldn't believe how excited I was about my aquarium completing the nitrogen cycle and to see my mom not as equally excited about it was a little disappointing.

But yes...my temporary interest in various topics has been consistent throughout my life. Sometimes I'll really get into a topic, then drop it for a long time, then pick it back up again.... but only if there's more to explore on the topic to engage my curiosity.

How big a part of your life is this?

I feel like I need to have something to research to death, something to explore. Otherwise I feel driftless. One main topic that I can explore all of it's veins and where ever they may lead is what would be ideal, and I would say a big part of my life. Then maybe other smaller things to explore would be nice too so that I had variety.

I think i was researching parenting and nutrition topics more before that night I read Keirsey. Then once that happened, I knew this was a topic that I would love. So I researched everything I could about it that seemed interesting....and that's how I stumbled upon the cognitive functions, and those took precedence over temperament. Then I found out about the enneagram....then the neuroscience of personality....etc. So those were distractions, but all related to typology.

Here's a quote from a previous post:

In this quote you were not sure how to describe what makes something exciting. Are you in a better position now to explain what makes things exciting for you?

I think so. Getting to explore the unknown of something that holds a lot of interest. Learning, discovery.... More so than analyzing, and definitely more than using the information I learn, I just want to fully understand something. I need to know the meaning. I want explanations for things. A lot of times I have fun coming up with my own explanations. My mom said I used to ask "why?" all the time as a kid....and I'm pretty much still the same way. I don't know what that says about my personality.

 

[Xena]

I was thinking more about this discussion today...and how significant perceiving is in my life. And one the way home from work, I had a flashback of a memory from when my ex who was going through classes to learn how to type verify people asked me to describe myself. The list I gave her was pretty much 90% perceiving.

And in her class, the instructor said that people will spend most of their time describing their dominant function.... although I'm not sure I was describing functions as much as behaviors.... I wish I could find that list.

 

[robert666]

It's like walking in a murky forest, the mystery of what might be uncovered in it's depths is beckoning. And as you explore, slowly the murk fades and the objects within begin to gain clarity. You start to be able to know where you're going and can navigate the forest. After awhile, you can see things for what they are, and how they're related....

The unknown that holds promising treasure is where I explore. Maybe it's the same for everyone, but the only difference is what someone considers "treasure"?

So it's more important to think about the unknown rather than the known?

Another way to think about it is like when playing a video game and you just start out, so most of the map is black. But as you continue to explore the territory, the map starts to become fully fleshed out....

What happens after you are able to see the whole map?

But yes...my temporary interest in various topics has been consistent throughout my life. Sometimes I'll really get into a topic, then drop it for a long time, then pick it back up again.... but only if there's more to explore on the topic to engage my curiosity.

What happens if there are no more unknowns on the topic?

I feel like I need to have something to research to death, something to explore. Otherwise I feel driftless. One main topic that I can explore all of it's veins and where ever they may lead is what would be ideal, and I would say a big part of my life. Then maybe other smaller things to explore would be nice too so that I had variety.

So the focus of your life is to explore?

I think so. Getting to explore the unknown of something that holds a lot of interest. Learning, discovery.... More so than analyzing, and definitely more than using the information I learn, I just want to fully understand something. I need to know the meaning. I want explanations for things. A lot of times I have fun coming up with my own explanations. My mom said I used to ask "why?" all the time as a kid....and I'm pretty much still the same way. I don't know what that says about my personality.

So it's about simply learning for the sake of learning?

I was thinking more about this discussion today...and how significant perceiving is in my life. And one the way home from work, I had a flashback of a memory from when my ex who was going through classes to learn how to type verify people asked me to describe myself. The list I gave her was pretty much 90% perceiving.

And in her class, the instructor said that people will spend most of their time describing their dominant function.... although I'm not sure I was describing functions as much as behaviors.... I wish I could find that list.

Remember this for later.

 

[Xena]

So it's more important to think about the unknown rather than the known?

It's important to pursue the unknown....to make it known. The process of exploring is the most satisfying part. I keep coming up with more questions with the knowledge that I've gained, that way I can continue to explore. So I use the known to postulate more questions...to see what connections I can find...to pursue explanations. I think it's why I was so interested in aquariums and microbiology....I get to see into a world that's typically hidden from plain view and explore.

What happens after you are able to see the whole map?

It's not nearly as interesting. I can at least use that explored territory to know how it relates to other things though. Like when I was brewing Kombucha when I was homeschooling my kids. They noticed that it got cloudy, so I explained the yeast "bloom" and then used that opportunity as a way to explain how the human population "bloomed". That organisms use the available resources (yeast using sugar in this case) to multiply explosively until they've used up all the resources......

What happens if there are no more unknowns on the topic?

There's really no point in me pursuing it then...it would just be a waste of time. It's times like that when I have to find something else that piques my interest. It has to flow organically though....I can't force myself to fall in love with an interest. I just have to see it when it comes and take the opportunity to explore it.

So the focus of your life is to explore?

Explore, consume information, understand, and generate explanations....then repeat the cycle.

So it's about simply learning for the sake of learning?

The process of learning is exciting, as long as it's something I'm truly interested in. I really like it when the information I take in is useful...but using it isn't what drives me to learn more. Sometimes if I generate an explanation or a theory about the way something is related...then I need to research to find out if it could be true... So sometimes learning is to see if my theories are valid. I'm always thinking "Maybe it's because....______?" Then I need to go find out if that's the case.

When I was a kid I'd read encyclopedias or whatever I could get my hands on that was non-fiction...and so some kids used to call me a "walking encyclopedia"... I would have been in heaven if I'd grown up with the internet.

Remember this for later.

 

[robert666]

Here's a quote from a previous post again.

This is a really hard question for me to answer because I don't know exactly what it is that I'll find exciting.... I think the common thread seems to be a sense of serendipity and adventure. It feels good to give in to my impulses and let them steer me. Like going for a night out with a partner and discovering a new place to eat, then afterwards stumbling upon a place that plays live music and has amazing ambiance.

Would you say that the things that you enjoy in this post have to do with learning, understanding or exploring?

 

[Xena]

Here's a quote from a previous post again. Would you say that the things that you enjoy in this post have to do with learning, understanding or exploring?

Not learning or understanding, but it does have the theme of exploration.

I have a lot more mental energy than physical...so even though I may find going out and exploring fun, I don't often want to waste my energy on that. So exploring interesting topics is more preferable typically.

Being with someone i really like helps me overcome that lack of physical energy to a degree.

When I wrote the quote above, I was trying to think of a time I was really happy...and it was on vacation with my partner, going out on the town in the Outer Banks. But thats not my normal mode of operation. Though I did find it very enjoyable.

I think most of my ordinary time is spent the way I described in the post where I described how I spent the majority of my time.

 

[robert666]

Not learning or understanding, but it does have the theme of exploration.

I have a lot more mental energy than physical...so even though I may find going out and exploring fun, I don't often want to waste my energy on that. So exploring interesting topics is more preferable typically.

Leaving out the enjoyment from being with a loved one, would you say that the majority of the enjoyment comes from the idea of exploration?

Does this also extend to those pleasures that you consider to be sensory?

Is the enjoyment of exploration similar to the enjoyment from learning about a new idea?

 

[Xena]

Leaving out the enjoyment from being with a loved one, would you say that the majority of the enjoyment comes from the idea of exploration?

Yes....because you never know what you're going to find, and the unexpected unfolding feels alluring.

Does this also extend to those pleasures that you consider to be sensory?

Well initially, most of the things I've indulged in sensory related were tried because of my curiosity. I wanted to know how they'd feel.... then if I liked the feeling I kept coming back. I am pretty careful not to do anything that could actually hurt me, so I wouldn't do anything with a huge potential for that. I tried pot when I was 30 just because I've always wanted to know what it felt like. I have a huge problem with moderating myself on things I like. I'm self-preservation instinct first...so the things that bring me comfort, like the smell of coffee in the morning, a comfortable bed with cool sheets to climb into at night...those things aren't really because of curiosity. I think it's just because those things satiate my SP instincts.

Is the enjoyment of exploration similar to the enjoyment from learning about a new idea?

The enjoyment is mostly the same. I would say that the real-world exploring is more memorable. But I've gotten very excited about exploring new topics and then discussing my ideas with people to see what they think. I have to say when I talked to Dario in his living room...I was freaking thrilled to explore neuroscience with him. I felt a little bad about monopolizing the conversation with him and kept asking him questions...but I couldn't stop myself. lol Maybe there's a physical and intellectual realm exploration. Both are fantastic....but the physical one is much more exhausting.

I enjoy interaction while learning....so discussions during lecture class, or even talking with people here on forums and engaging in an interactive learning process is a form of outer-world exploring. I guess it's hard for me to separate learning from exploration and to know if the enjoyment is similar... When I think about how I was with Dario....it was picking his brain and exploring what he knew to be most enjoyable...but I did it because I enjoy learning. Hmmm..

I guess the answer is yes.

 

[robert666]

[MENTION=30290]Xena[/MENTION]
Here are some quotes from your posts that have the same theme. Read through them and see if they indicate any particular cognitive function to you.

I do enjoy looking at people's vanity plates and trying to uncover what that means about them....I use clues like what kind of car they drive, how old it is, if they have college stickers on there....and figure out what the vanity plate says to piece together who they are. I am pretty confident in my guesses....and one time I had the chance to confirm with someone..and it felt so good to know I got it right. Sometimes I'll use that same guessing to figure out who I should get behind at a red light if I want to be behind someone that goes faster than the other.

If someone could make tests that involved real-world clues to profile someone...I think that would be fun.

Someone once had everyone play the "psychopath" game at a party one time, where you have to figure out why the psychopath did what they did....and that was a lot of fun. (I'm not a psychopath, lol, but I did get it "right" quickly.)


I don't know what benefit it has... I Just like to understand people. I don't know why. The experience is a little like getting inside the mind of that person, getting to experience their identity vicariously.

I like the feeling of inspiration I get from learning about a new topic...or even browsing ideas on pinterest (backyard projects, homeschool tips, how to use a crockpot more effectively).

What is most satisfying is when my curiosity is engaged... like stumbling upon a new interest is so energizing to me. There's so much to explore with the topic. I love that feeling of finding a new interest to immerse myself in.

Yes...the engagement curve tends to level out, then drops. It could be for different reasons....sometimes it was just a phase I went through and realized I liked the "idea" of the topic more than actually "doing" it.... like with camping, backpacking, etc.... I researched all about that stuff, bought some gear, then never went. The realization of the information wasn't near as thrilling as exploring the information and daydreaming about it. I think I just idolized it and wanted to try on that identity for awhile.

Sometimes I'll get bored because other things come into focus and take more of a priority.... Or I'll get distracted by other fun topics that are even more attractive to me. So those new ones take precedence.

The unknown that holds promising treasure is where I explore. Maybe it's the same for everyone, but the only difference is what someone considers "treasure"?

But yes...my temporary interest in various topics has been consistent throughout my life. Sometimes I'll really get into a topic, then drop it for a long time, then pick it back up again.... but only if there's more to explore on the topic to engage my curiosity.

I feel like I need to have something to research to death, something to explore. Otherwise I feel driftless.

Getting to explore the unknown of something that holds a lot of interest. Learning, discovery.... More so than analyzing, and definitely more than using the information I learn, I just want to fully understand something. I need to know the meaning. I want explanations for things.

It's important to pursue the unknown....to make it known. The process of exploring is the most satisfying part. I keep coming up with more questions with the knowledge that I've gained, that way I can continue to explore. So I use the known to postulate more questions...to see what connections I can find...to pursue explanations.

Explore, consume information, understand, and generate explanations....then repeat the cycle.

The process of learning is exciting, as long as it's something I'm truly interested in. I really like it when the information I take in is useful...but using it isn't what drives me to learn more. Sometimes if I generate an explanation or a theory about the way something is related...then I need to research to find out if it could be true...

I have a lot more mental energy than physical...so even though I may find going out and exploring fun, I don't often want to waste my energy on that. So exploring interesting topics is more preferable typically.

Yes....because you never know what you're going to find, and the unexpected unfolding feels alluring.

 

[Xena]

@Xena Here are some quotes from your posts that have the same theme. Read through them and see if they indicate any particular cognitive function to you.

It sounds like Ne .... when being profiled, I was asked what it is that I could do so much that it would take a long time for me to get tired....I told them that I don't do much but research topics of interest. And I think they must have thought it was Ni because I'm Introverted.

But when I read back that list, it sounds more Ne...
I also thought I had no Ne because I didn't see any Si. Do people usually feel like their inferior function isn't a part of them? I couldn't see inferior Te either....
I haven't really even considered any of the extroverted personality types because I seem so Introverted. And I've been more Introverted since middle school. Plus, ive never been a huge socializer. When I socialize i feel awkward, and I often don't have a lot in common with other people.
I remember at one point a few months back thinking I had to be perceiving dominant though because that seems like my default mode.
So then I thought, maybe I'm not a Pdom and I just can't see Fi because it's unconscious? The only parts I saw were what I mentioned before...but not a constant value checking like I hear it usually explained as. I've always had a strong conscience....so I thought maybe that was Fi?
I thought I was just a weird Se type that learned intuitively. I didn't need hands-on, but I figured that was just my own weird quirk. And I thought my lack of activity may have been because I was an overweight child...

 

[robert666]

I also thought I had no Ne because I didn't see any Si. Do people usually feel like their inferior function isn't a part of them? I couldn't see inferior Te either....

Why would having Ne or not having Ne be dependent on seeing Si? If you observer Ne then you observe Ne, if you don't observe Ne then you don't observe Ne, why would it be dependent on Si? It makes no sense.
It's not a good idea to be searching for the third or fourth functions, or fifth, or sixth, or twenty ninth.....
If knowing the first two functions guarantees knowing your type, why would you need to look for any others, it just makes things much more complicated. If you were a hunter tracking a deer in the forest and you came across fresh deer tracks would you then accept that this was made by a deer because you can see the tracks, or would you insist that you have to make sure by being able to smell it's scent on the ground, like a bloodhound? Typology is not a hard science. This means that there is no way to prove anything the way that you can do so in mathematics or physics. One person says that everyone has four functions, another says that people have eight functions, maybe tomorrow someone will say that people have twenty nine. If you're looking for the third function, how do you know that you've found it in someone, since you would expect that it would show up rarely. You might see a behaviour and say "aha that's behaviour is because of the third function", but someone else could argue that it's because of the fourth function. You believe that you enjoy "a comfortable bed with cool sheets to climb into at night" because of your Se, but I could argue that it's because of Si since it's something you enjoyed from your past and very familiar. Or I could argue that it doesn't mean anything because everyone enjoys cool sheets in bed. It makes more sense to look for the fewest functions that help you determine your type and that are the most observable, ie. the first two since they are the strongest.

I haven't really even considered any of the extroverted personality types because I seem so Introverted. And I've been more Introverted since middle school. Plus, ive never been a huge socializer. When I socialize i feel awkward, and I often don't have a lot in common with other people.

Are you aware that there is a difference between introversion/extroversion in typology and social introversion/extroversion? Being an introvert in one does not guarantee being an introvert in the other, and vice versa. Your being socially awkward and introverted in the social sense does not mean that you have an introverted personality type.

So then I thought, maybe I'm not a Pdom and I just can't see Fi because it's unconscious? The only parts I saw were what I mentioned before...but not a constant value checking like I hear it usually explained as. I've always had a strong conscience....so I thought maybe that was Fi?

Most people don't normally think of their cognition in a conscious way, so yes that makes it not so obvious to you. I don't think there is this constant conscious value-checking that you are talking about. You would just act or think in a way that is normal to you and use your functions without thinking about it. For example you do all those Ne things I listed in the previous post and you do them without thinking of them consciously. If you absolutely must find out about your values then list out all the things that have to do with your conscience, I bet you'll find plenty of values in there. Or look around in the Fi subforum. There are also the Fi indicators that you mentioned earlier in this thread that you are aware of.

I thought I was just a weird Se type that learned intuitively. I didn't need hands-on, but I figured that was just my own weird quirk.

Oh... right.... so you're one of those people who is ISFP, but with strong Ne...
I use my right hand for doing most things. I call myself left-handed, with strong right-handedness....
If you use one function more than another then that function is higher up the stack, otherwise the stacking of cognitive functions won't make any sense.

And I thought my lack of activity may have been because I was an overweight child...

 

[Xena]

Why would having Ne or not having Ne be dependent on seeing Si? If you observer Ne then you observe Ne, if you don't observe Ne then you don't observe Ne, why would it be dependent on Si? It makes no sense.

It makes more sense to look for the fewest functions that help you determine your type and that are the most observable, ie. the first two since they are the strongest.

I thought I should see Si since Ne and Si are a polarity...

Maybe I was confusing Se/Ni with Ne because I really felt like I used extroverted perceiving. It makes sense that I could confuse Ne for Ni/Se combined...
And it makes sense why I was most aware of the perceiving part of me.

Are you aware that there is a difference between introversion/extroversion in typology and social introversion/extroversion? Being an introvert in one does not guarantee being an introvert in the other, and vice versa. Your being socially awkward and introverted in the social sense does not mean that you have an introverted personality type.

No, I wasn't aware. I thought that since people drained the energy from me when I socialized that it meant I was introverted. When I'm out "peopling" it feels like a huge performance...and I need time to recover afterwards generally.

Most people don't normally think of their cognition in a conscious way, so yes that makes it not so obvious to you. I don't think there is this constant conscious value-checking that you are talking about. You would just act or think in a way that is normal to you and use your functions without thinking about it. For example you do all those Ne things I listed in the previous post and you do them without thinking of them consciously. If you absolutely must find out about your values then list out all the things that have to do with your conscience, I bet you'll find plenty of values in there. Or look around in the Fi subforum. There are also the Fi indicators that you mentioned earlier in this thread that you are aware of.

Going along with the same line of polarity thinking, if I'm Fi aux...then Te would be more prominent in my personality than someone with it in the inferior...and I don't relate to Te at all. If I was so blind about Ne and incorrect about the ISP part, how can I trust that just because I have some of the Fi traits that it's actually my auxiliary function? I related to Ti too...maybe I'm incorrect about that? The only two things I always believed about myself was that I was an IP....since the beginning...and now I'm thinking there is a real possibility that I'm not actually an introvert. Or maybe still a social introvert, but not leading with an introverted function.

Oh... right.... so you're one of those people who is ISFP, but with strong Ne...
I use my right hand for doing most things. I call myself left-handed, with strong right-handedness....
If you use one function more than another then that function is higher up the stack, otherwise the stacking of cognitive functions won't make any sense.

Haha...I'm one of those people. Well I was trying to come up with explanations for the inconsistencies I saw. I understand what you're saying though. I use extroverted perception the most. And it's not exploration in a hands-on way...but using the mind.

 

[Verona]

Great video. Thanks for sharing!

If your ex was INFP did you feel like you had a lot in common? If you are ISFP then I would imagine there would be some major commonalities being both Fi-doms?

My gut still says ISTP for you.

 

[Xena]

Great video. Thanks for sharing! If your ex was INFP did you feel like you had a lot in common? If you are ISFP then I would imagine there would be some major commonalities being both Fi-doms? My gut still says ISTP for you.

Thanks
We were both caring people...and sensitive to other's suffering. She seemed more comfortable with emotions than me, and encouraged me to share my emotions with her, but that felt exhausting afterwards. It didn't make me feel better to bring them up with her like she said happens for her. Instead I just felt worse. She loved emotional things much more than me...like songs and movies that make you cry. I don't want to cry, so I avoid them...and I don't like feeling emotionally manipulated.
I was always more accommodating of people, and worried more about being judged than she was. I saw her as selfish in some ways....since I felt like she should accommodate herself for other people's needs some times. She has a lot more friends than me, and fits in better with other women, even though she marches to her own drum.
I'm also much more protective than she was...I was more sensitive than her when it came to conflict. She was verbally able to talk circles around me, so I would just shut down since I couldn't think of a way to defend myself. I often feel like I'm too sensitive for this world, and she's never really felt that way. She talks a lot more than me too. She could talk to her friends on the phone for hours. Aside from writing online, I don't express myself much. There's no way I could come up with hours of things to say like she does. Texting is a different story.
Shes a 4sx/so....and I think we clashed because of her emotional intensity. Whereas I just wanted to keep things light-hearted and fun because of my sensitivity. I often felt pursued in conflicts and just ended up breaking down into tears...trying to get away.
She said I had a pure heart, I was a good lover and dancer....but she didn't quite care for my sometimes crass sense of humor. I'm more impulsive, irresponsible, and messier than her. She keeps up with herself and cares about hygiene more.... She also reminisces and thinks about the past a whole lot more than me.

She gets extremely frustrated that I never put anything back in it's place....she said it brings out her lower functions and that's why it's upsetting to her. I can usually remember a photo of the last place I saw something in my head...and looking for things doesn't bother me as much.
In a crisis we had on vacation once, she woke up in the hotel in panic, her screams woke me up, because of the alarms going off. I really had my wits about me and told her that it was just the fire alarm and I went over and calmly got the kids up (I didn't want to incite panic), shoes on their feet and a coat since I knew it was cold outside.... and then since I saw the picture of the hotel map the night before, I knew exactly where to go ( I could see the picture of the map in my head), even if it was completely pitch dark. We were about to head out the door when the alarms stopped. Come to find out it was just smoke from the oven when they started cooking breakfast that set off the false alarm. Afterwards, I allowed myself to cry and realize the full emotionality of the situation, but not during the moment.

Sorry to write a novel. It was a very impactful experience, and Illustrated a very interesting difference between us.

 

[robert666]

If I was so blind about Ne and incorrect about the ISP part, how can I trust that just because I have some of the Fi traits that it's actually my auxiliary function?

In your mind, what would confirm that Fi is your auxiliary function?

 

[Xena]

In your mind, what would confirm that Fi is your auxiliary function?

I don't know... my ex husband was an ISFP....and my most recent ex is an Infp. They both love art and can be pretty creative. And I am not creative, and other than music/acting....I don't care for art in the traditional way. I'm much more science oriented than them. But I also am more sensitive than them. It seems like if Fi was more pronounced then I would care less about what people think, I would be able to integrate with other women easier, and I would be more into art.

I don't relate much to the NF temperament. My Infp ex gets really into emotional and other kinds abstract topics, like philosophy, etc.... those seem so boring to me.

 

[robert666]

I don't know... my ex husband was an ISFP....and my most recent ex is an Infp. They both love art and can be pretty creative. And I am not creative, and other than music/acting....I don't care for art in the traditional way. I'm much more science oriented than them. But I also am more sensitive than them. It seems like if Fi was more pronounced then I would care less about what people think, I would be able to integrate with other women easier, and I would be more into art.

I don't relate much to the NF temperament. My Infp ex gets really into emotional and other kinds abstract topics, like philosophy, etc.... those seem so boring to me.

Have you looked around in the Fi forums to see if your assumptions match other people's experiences?

 

[Mayflower]

You gave off an IXTJ vibe, but that doesn't say much. ISFP is possible. I saw some 2w3 (or vice versa). The best I can say to help is are you more apt to just take things in; "see" things (perceiving), or do you focus more on rationalization; assert if something is logical or holds value (judging)?