The Truth about INFJs

[Yara the Corpse]

 

[Amargith]

Someone's projecting from their witch function...

 

[Ghost]

She said she was going to destroy stereotypes and then went into the "whiny INFP" stereotype. Way to go, pal. I may have more to say later.

BTW, what's with the thread title?

 

[Amargith]

She said she was going to destroy stereotypes and then went into the "whiny INFP" stereotype. Way to go, pal. I may have more to say later.

BTW, what's with the thread title?

...the way she talks, she likely types INFJ.

For that matter, her assessment of INFPs reeks of witch Fi filtered through Fe.

 

[entropie]

I just see monster boobs

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

She could even be an unhealthy ESTJ lost in her shadow, but she has emotional issues that go way beyond MBTI. I think she is a Je-dom due to her forceful voice, eyes, expression - unlike anyone I've known to be an introvert. There is no guardedness, nothing held within, nothing introverted. No way on this planet or any other that she is an INFP, and I seriously doubt INFJ either. INFJs are not social force mongers either, but detached and spacey. If you want an evil, forceful INFJ look at Rasputin, not this girl. Holy Moly, she is exactly why I don't get out much due to the pure social force and intensive extroversion from people.

(She says about INFPs, but actually confessing about herself) "If you do not submit to their ways, they will label you rude, unfair, bad person, and that is what they will spread as an information around people. Extroverted Thinking is spreading rumors about people That is an INFP. That is what they do and what they are about. They do not have a big heart at all."

run fer yer liiiiiiife!

 

[Amargith]

This vid could however serve to re-awaken certain type wars here, though.


Beware.

 

[Virtual ghost]

I just see monster boobs

Yeah, the whole thing has a "nude" feel to it that seem kind of a unconnected to the point at hand.

 

[PeaceBaby]

She's an Ni user, that much is certain. (Perhaps Fe - Ni with the speed of output?)

Interesting video. I like it in that she doesn't hold back, always good to know what you're dealing with in an out-loud way.

However, this is unrecognized senex projection, essentially. Even Vicky Jo, a classic pot-stirrer when it comes to the dismissal of Fi, sees this more clearly:

Sixth position Witch/Senex: introverted Feeling for the INFJ
What does this mean? This is the bad mother/father that criticizes, condemns, immobilizes, or demoralizes. It finds fault with everyone, making everyone seem like fakes or untrustworthy. It can be the basis of self-attacks commonly experienced in depression. This archetype is anti-life, since it cripples soul and spirit. The appearance of this function forces one to be creative, to outwit some challenge by finding a way around it.

What about you? Do you react negatively to introverted Feeling? I know I struggle with it. This is a function that causes me a lot of problems (not least the fact that it's my husband's Tertiary). While I desperately need it to sort out my values and to provide an internal compass, I also consider introverted Feeling "selfish," irrational, and unreasonable at times, better dismissed and ignored.

~ source: INFJ Archetypes

p.s. the thread title needs to be changed

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

She's an Ni user, that much is certain. (Perhaps Fe - Ni with the speed of output?)

Interesting video. I like it in that she doesn't hold back, always good to know what you're dealing with in an out-loud way.

However, this is unrecognized senex projection, essentially. Even Vicky Jo, a classic pot-stirrer when it comes to the dismissal of Fi, sees this more clearly:

~ source: INFJ Archetypes

From what I understand Vicky Jo rejects and dismisses Fi by placing negative value judgements on her negative descriptions of it, but the lady in the video embraces and identifies with the traits she describes as Fi. It sounds like dismissal to people who don't like gossiping and lacking compassion, but she is actually praising those qualities as a source of strength. She identifies as an INFP because of the qualities she describes.

 

[Norrsken]

Something tells me that her video comes from a place of personal pain. Perhaps an INFP ex-lover is lurking in the shadows?

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

Something tells me that her video comes from a place of personal pain. Perhaps an INFP ex-lover is lurking in the shadows?

Although she is identifying as INFP, so she isn't trying to berate the type at all. She gives off the vibe of a person who has been in many high-conflict relationships. She has a tremendous amount of anger, and it is interesting she talks so much about passive-aggression, because I suspect what she identifies as passive-aggression I would see as overt, extroverted aggression. It may be that she has been hurt by someone who was good at passive-aggression, and so she identifies having that trait as a source of self-protection and strength. It does feel like she has encountered conflicts that she couldn't resolve and that is why there is pride in taking it out on people's reputations. Often when a person cannot solve a problem at the personal level, they take it to the social level, or vice versa. By taking an un-resolvable issue to a different level of 'self' we can hope to gain control of it there, but that is often the source of dysfunction. For example, people who cannot control aspects of their personal life tend to try to control other people, etc. Extroverts have greater tendency to take personal level issues to the social level just like introverts tend to take social issues to the personal level because that is where each are more adept at solving problems.

 

[Norrsken]

Although she is identifying as INFP, so she isn't trying to berate the type at all. She gives off the vibe of a person who has been in many high-conflict relationships. She has a tremendous amount of anger, and it is interesting she talks so much about passive-aggression, because I suspect what she identifies as passive-aggression I would see as overt, extroverted aggression. It may be that she has been hurt by someone who was good at passive-aggression, and so she identifies having that trait as a source of self-protection and strength. It does feel like she has encountered conflicts that she couldn't resolve and that is why there is pride in taking it out on people's reputations. Often when a person cannot solve a problem at the personal level, they take it to the social level, or vice versa. By taking an un-resolvable issue to a different level of 'self' we can hope to gain control of it there, but that is often the source of dysfunction. For example, people who cannot control aspects of their personal life tend to try to control other people, etc. Extroverts have greater tendency to take personal level issues to the social level just like introverts tend to take social issues to the personal level because that is where each are more adept at solving problems.

She doesn't strike me as an INFP, though I can see that she may share some functions with them. She reminds me of my mother in law, who I suspect is an ESTJ. It's funny how some of them work internally--I'm talking about the unhealthy ones here--that they can aggressively attack you with their Te but can also be very much 'butthurt' in return through their Fi lenses and the woman in the video just sounds like she's projecting that and slag off the INFPs as a self-deflection mechanism. When I first met my MIL, she was quite the nightmare. Always doing her best to appear contained and logical and competent, and yet literally has to flee whenever I or someone else may have accidentally stepped on her emotions or on something personal that she thinks about in private. She used to act like I'm attacking her just by merely existing and loving her son.

She still does it, the fleeing part, but we've gotten along better.

 

[PeaceBaby]

Self types as INFJ 6w7

 

[PeaceBaby]

From what I understand Vicky Jo rejects and dismisses Fi by placing negative value judgements on her negative descriptions of it, but the lady in the video embraces and identifies with the traits she describes as Fi. It sounds like dismissal to people who don't like gossiping and lacking compassion, but she is actually praising those qualities as a source of strength. She identifies as an INFP because of the qualities she describes.

I'm pretty sure that someone who describes swatting INFPs like flies isn't exactly in love with Fi.

 

[Forever]

For now I can dismiss she's neither INFP nor INFJ, she's certainly an extrovert.

That video was annoying. Only can stand like 3 mins.

Also probably safe to say she is a feeler too.

Why does she have to wear that kind of clothes with the body she has? ehhhhghhh. Even if she was skinny it's not some sultry date. It's only about ranting about silly mbti stuff.

Just only thought I should reply, because the conversation was mildly interesting.

 

[Siúil a Rúin]

I'm pretty sure that someone who describes swatting INFPs like flies isn't exactly in love with Fi.

You're right that is definitely dismissal, but overall it's a complex issue because she identifies as an INFP. So is she saying she wants to swap herself like a fly? I guess there is some self-rejection going on with her, and other complex issues.

She doesn't strike me as an INFP, though I can see that she may share some functions with them. She reminds me of my mother in law, who I suspect is an ESTJ. It's funny how some of them work internally--I'm talking about the unhealthy ones here--that they can aggressively attack you with their Te but can also be very much 'butthurt' in return through their Fi lenses and the woman in the video just sounds like she's projecting that and slag off the INFPs as a self-deflection mechanism. When I first met my MIL, she was quite the nightmare. Always doing her best to appear contained and logical and competent, and yet literally has to flee whenever I or someone else may have accidentally stepped on her emotions or on something personal that she thinks about in private. She used to act like I'm attacking her just by merely existing and loving her son.

She still does it, the fleeing part, but we've gotten along better.

Her vibe reminds me of my boyfriend's father who is also ESTJ. He uses a bizarre form of "passive aggression" where he will tell dominating "jokes". For example, I once thanked him and his wife for taking us out to dinner, and he pointed at me and said, "Now get on your knees and say it". I was especially turned off by the video because of the similarity in the social feeling it conveys. To balance my comments, I will add that I think a healthy ESTJ is like Michael Bluth from "Arrested Development" who is the rock and center of all the craziness. A healthy ESTJ can be the one truly sane, practical, clear person among the lunatics.

There is some reason she identifies as INFP, which is an important element in making sense of this since she knows herself better than anyone. She appears to be in an unhealthy state, and people in unhealthy states can revert to their shadow function in a dysfunctional way. If in addition to this she reminds multiple people of unhealthy ESTJs, so my impression is to type her as that.

 

[PeaceBaby]

You're right that is definitely dismissal, but overall it's a complex issue because she identifies as an INFP. So is she saying she wants to swap herself like a fly? I guess there is some self-rejection going on with her, and other complex issues.

I posted the video above from her channel with her MBTI self-typing as INFJ 6w7. She does not identify as INFP. The thread title here on our forum is confusing too.

eta: [MENTION=28503]PhloweryPheromes[/MENTION]: can you change your title to "The Truth About INFPs", unless you intend a double-meaning that the video says more about her as an INFJ than her comments on INFPs?

 

[cascadeco]

You're right that is definitely dismissal, but overall it's a complex issue because she identifies as an INFP. So is she saying she wants to swap herself like a fly? I guess there is some self-rejection going on with her, and other complex issues.


Her vibe reminds me of my boyfriend's father who is also ESTJ. He uses a bizarre form of "passive aggression" where he will tell dominating "jokes". For example, I once thanked him and his wife for taking us out to dinner, and he pointed at me and said, "Now get on your knees and say it". I was especially turned off by the video because of the similarity in the social feeling it conveys. To balance my comments, I will add that I think a healthy ESTJ is like Michael Bluth from "Arrested Development" who is the rock and center of all the craziness. A healthy ESTJ can be the one truly sane, practical, clear person among the lunatics.

There is some reason she identifies as INFP, which is an important element in making sense of this since she knows herself better than anyone. She appears to be in an unhealthy state, and people in unhealthy states can revert to their shadow function in a dysfunctional way. If in addition to this she reminds multiple people of unhealthy ESTJs, so my impression is to type her as that.

I just want to say, it's going to be especially hard to know what type she is actually referring to with respect to her self typing because she mixes socionics and mbti, and some of her videos are much more about socionics, and INFP in one does not equal INFP in the other. iow Her self typing as INFJ 6w7 as well as INFP might be one and the same.

 

[Norrsken]

Her vibe reminds me of my boyfriend's father who is also ESTJ. He uses a bizarre form of "passive aggression" where he will tell dominating "jokes". For example, I once thanked him and his wife for taking us out to dinner, and he pointed at me and said, "Now get on your knees and say it".

Can you hear the sound of my eyes rolling in the back of my skull?