Mr. Robot

[Raffaella]

I loved that, when

Elliot was talking to us in one of those moments -- I overlooked he was doing it -- and his dad, who is a figment of his imagination, yells at him and tells him to stop talking to us all the time. ROFL! It was a meta-meta moment,.

LOL, yes! The moment reminds of Qwerty's "MOVE ME TO THE GODDAMN WINDOW!" and in the next episode, the fishbowl placed next to the window.

 

[Riva]

yeah they were just setting things up for season two.

it's a bit shitty though. they left it like that.

i can see future plot twists going to be revealed by perhaps we needed a bit more than this for the season end.

tyrell and her beautiful-unempathetic wife, what are they upto? so strange. that's what i am most curious about right now.

edit - i love it though, the show and the future the show could have but a bunch of rich guys dining and laughing while the world burns seems extremely cliche. that's not the end i wanted to see.

 

[Duffy]

This is one of those shows I'll watch again to get a clearer picture.

Last episode thoughts:

There was a scene I thought was clever, where Angela is shopping for shoes to replace the blood soaked ones. The guy helping her comes to the realization she works for E Corp and proceeds to criticize her morals. She tries to reason that she needed the job, but the guy wouldn't let her get a word in, until she finally erupts: "I don't know who you think you're talking to, but I'll try the Prada's next." He goes quiet and continues with his task. There's a bit of an irony there.

His scene where he talks to the viewers. I sometimes forget that we are as much an entity in Elliot's reality as Mr. Robot. To me, his struggle and what the audience and Mr. Robot represent are a bit of personification of the whole "ego-superego-id" complex. I originally thought maybe the audience is the superego and Elliot the ego, but changed my mind. He places a significant amount of restriction on himself (ref: social anxiety) and wants to do the "right" thing. His father, the ID (pro anarchist, go-getter). Us, the viewers, the observer, struggling to make sense of everything and stuck in a tug-of-war. I may be reaching. Was having some fun with theories

 

[Arctic Hysteria]

Can't believe I'm only getting int this show just now. On episode 4 of season 1.

15 minutes into episode 1, I immediately concluded that Elliot is INTP, with the INFP type 4 at times.
Angela, I get the ESxJ vibe
Shayla, perhaps ISFP
Tyrell, ENTJ

 

[EJCC]

Mr. Robot season premiere 'leaked' on social media by show's creators | The Verge

 

[SearchingforPeace]

I really enjoyed season 1. I really should rewatch it, though...

Really need to rewatch to see if there is evidence for the Tyrell is Elliott theory..... his wife's reaction to meeting Elliott seems to indicate this, as does Mr. Robot's meeting with Tyrell. But the meeting between Tyrell and Mr. Robot could just be Elliot and Tyrell...... hmmmmmmmm

 

[Totenkindly]

I just caught up and finished episode 7 (out of 12). Episode 8 airs tomorrow night.

I'm pretty impressed, I think the show has been more focused than even first season and is actually moving ahead --- I wasn't sure how. I love the musical choices, I love the opener choices (the show is not timid, it's willing to take chances), and I liked the development between Elliot and Mr. Robot in terms of their relationship to each other. Nice work there.

There's still a lot of "aftermath" stuff going on from the downfall of Evil Corporation (which still exists). This season seems even darker than the firs,t to be honest... just some pretty crazy stuff Elliot is wrestling with. We don't really find out what happened to Tyrell until mid-season (if in fact it's true), and Elliot remains an unreliable narrator which is great.... which at least at one point leaves a really big WTF!? moment. I won't spoil when it is though.

There's also a great level of consciousness shift into a completely unexpected genre flip, with a totally unexpected guest star.

One thing I love about good TV series is that I can't necessarily predict where it is going, although in hindsight it all transitions perfectly and makes sense. Mr. Robot is anything but predictable, even if afterwards it makes sense.

 

[Totenkindly]

We're down to the Season 2 finale at this point, and again with Elliot the Unreliable Narrator in charge it's really difficult to know what exactly is real and what is not. He's also aware of this himself but is having trouble piecing it together. I wasn't really fond of the Dom plotline either (she's kind of annoying -- although I think that's supposed to be her character, she annoys her colleagues too), but it's improving, and the conversation between her and her smartphone was kind of sad on some level.

I really like seeing all the threads, yet still being unsure of where things are going to go; some shows are predictable, but this one is not.

 

[EJCC]

We're down to the Season 2 finale at this point, and again with Elliot the Unreliable Narrator in charge it's really difficult to know what exactly is real and what is not. He's also aware of this himself but is having trouble piecing it together. I wasn't really fond of the Dom plotline either (she's kind of annoying -- although I think that's supposed to be her character, she annoys her colleagues too), but it's improving, and the conversation between her and her smartphone was kind of sad on some level.

I really like seeing all the threads, yet still being unsure of where things are going to go; some shows are predictable, but this one is not.

Couldn't agree more! I love that I have no idea what's about to happen. Also not a fan of Dom, but I'm such a huge fan of White Rose that it almost balances out.

How the hell does this show do foreign policy better than House of Cards??

Anyway. Not at all happy that we STILL don't know what happened during the "lost time" at the end of season 1. Hopefully we'll learn that during the finale.

Also, let the record show that I almost saw the twist coming...

... but I thought he was in a psych ward. Not prison.

 

[Totenkindly]

Couldn't agree more! I love that I have no idea what's about to happen. Also not a fan of Dom, but I'm such a huge fan of White Rose that it almost balances out.

Yeah, I enjoy the White Rose (BD Wong) sequences a lot.

Hmmm. I didn't realize he played this role to essentially kick his career up a notch many years back:

Bradley Darryl Wong (born October 24, 1960) is an American actor. He won a Tony Award for his performance as Song Liling in M. Butterfly, becoming the only actor in Broadway history to receive the Tony Award, Drama Desk Award, Outer Critics Circle Award, Clarence Derwent Award, and Theatre World Award for the same role.

In any case, apparently he has had some affinity for this kind of role.

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How the hell does this show do foreign policy better than House of Cards??

Mr. Robot seems more like thriller/intrigue with a focus on the computer end of things, while HoC seems more like an intense political soap at times and has to focus completely on the politics while creating huge drama touchpoints. I think Mr. Robot feels more detached too.

Also, let the record show that I almost saw the twist coming...

... but I thought he was in a psych ward. Not prison.

Heh. I was like, "okay wtf just happened... are you kidding me?" But then a lot of stuff fell more into place.

 

[Totenkindly]

Just saw the finale.
Pretty decent. And of course, it's still a mind-screw.

I liked the pair-off between Darlene and Dom. I like Dom in terms of a character, she plays a unique role; but as a person I find myself really disliking her even when I can empathize. (Everything Darlene said was spot on -- and that's why.)

So then in comparison, take a look at Joanna, who is obviously a manipulator -- like, blatant, cutthroat, and relying partly on her sex appeal. She has no love in her heart and is entirely self-centered, whereas Dom still is holding some kind of moral aspirations high in her consciousness. So why do I hate Dom more than Joanna?

I think it's because Joanna KNOWS what she is and what she's doing, and is consciously choosing it, so at least on that level she's entirely honest and obvious about what she wants and what she's doing; Dom is the manipulator who seems to lie to herself at some level. At core she knows what she is, but she's lonely (because she hasn't embraced it), and she feels needy, and she has fooled herself into thinking that what she does, she is at least doing "for the right side of things" so that somehow makes her better. Whereas the reality more seems to be that she is not happy, she's isolated, and she has nothing else. (Which she comes out and says at one point, but it still doesn't feel like she's completely just "owning" it.)

Anyway, wow. Exciting ending. Completely unexpected closing tune. Aaaaandddd.....

WTF, Angela? We thought she was just swimming around the edges and getting picked off as the FBI narrowed in. But she talks to Tyrell. Did she do that earlier and I forgot? Or did we just find out that she's in MUCH more deeply than we thought, and we missed some of what she was doing?

Elliot, dude. You're confusing everyone!

 

[Riva]

Watched it, loved it, absolutely loved Remi Malek's acting but again would have loved a bit of clarity at a season's end rather than leaving it on a cliff hanger as the 'main' method to commit fans to watch the next season.

Saw that already with LOST.

 

[Totenkindly]

Watched it, loved it, absolutely loved Remi Malek's acting but again would have loved a bit of clarity at a season's end rather than leaving it on a cliff hanger as the 'main' method to commit fans to watch the next season.

Saw that already with LOST.

i'd watch it regardless of whether there was a cliffhanger.

 

[1487610420]

the tech research is legit, but there's something off about the show aura, not sure it's dark, or worse

 

[violet_crown]

Just started rewatching the series with my SO. We just watched season 1 episode 8 and I realized something crazy. Don't read this if you haven't finished Season 2.

Towards the end of the episode, you see Mr. Robot in the car with Tyrell Wellick. At the time, it's a big reveal because you realize that Tyrell and F Society had started working together at some point. Having just finished Season 2, it's AN EVEN MORE INSANE SCENE, because the scene with Mr. Robot and Tyrell is THE SAME SCENE AS THE ONE THAT HAPPENS AT THE END OF SEASON 2.

In Season 2, you see the scene from the perspective of Elliot/Mr. Robot. He basically calls Tyrell a pathetic basic in the taxi after he had had a meltdown demanding that the taxi driver tells him whether or not he sees the man in the car with him. They get out of the cab and he says the line to Tyrell about "You see what's in front of you; not what's above you."

In season 1, you see the aftermath of the scene from Tyrell's perspective where he's kneeling in front of Joanna and repeats the line to her right before the cops come to question him about murdering the new E-Corp CTO's wife. In season 2, you see the full ending of the scene where they go to the warehouse and are working on the bomb to destroy the physical locations of ECorps' debt records.

That means that something that has having occurred after the 5/9 Attack actually took place before the crisis. At the very least, this points to Stage 2 already being under works even before Stage 1 (destruction of the digital debt records) was complete, and more importantly that our understanding of the timeline of the show as a whole is flawed. The other big point is that there's no chance that Elliot actually died when Tyrell shot him because that scene actually happened so much earlier on in the story.

My guess is that Season 3 will be backtracking to fill in the blanks on Stage 2 (which is also why I guess Angela might now Tyrell?) It's pretty exciting stuff. Will mean that Mr. Robot will necessarily be a show that you have to watch at least twice to get everything.

Tagging [MENTION=7]Totenkindly[/MENTION] in this because it's the kind of TV geekiness she'd enjoy.

 

[Totenkindly]

...Tagging [MENTION=7]Totenkindly[/MENTION] in this because it's the kind of TV geekiness she'd enjoy.

Thanks for this.

This is one of the weaknesses of NOT binge-watching a series. I saw Season 1 episode by episode when it came out, so I had forgotten those details since they were over a year ago. Now I want to go back and watch everything again.

I'm really glad USA decided to take a chance on this series and let Esmail run with things how he wanted, it's at least bumped up the network's game so they're taken more seriously versus being a B-tier. Also, I think it's cool they simply filmed it 'as is' in terms of the language and then simply blanked out the swears for TV. The Blurays they can just run as is. The language feels pretty natural and real.

 

[EJCC]

1. Finished season 2 and am simultaneously pleased and not at all pleased. It was a good cliffhanger but not emotionally satisfying for some reason.

2. Oh my god [MENTION=7254]Wind Up Rex[/MENTION]. Mind. Blown. O_O None of that had occurred to me at all.

3. GO RAMI MALEK! Most deserving Emmy winner ever.

 

[violet_crown]

Thanks for this. This is one of the weaknesses of NOT binge-watching a series. I saw Season 1 episode by episode when it came out, so I had forgotten those details since they were over a year ago. Now I want to go back and watch everything again. I'm really glad USA decided to take a chance on this series and let Esmail run with things how he wanted, it's at least bumped up the network's game so they're taken more seriously versus being a B-tier. Also, I think it's cool they simply filmed it 'as is' in terms of the language and then simply blanked out the swears for TV. The Blurays they can just run as is. The language feels pretty natural and real.

Just found another little Easter egg supporting my previous post.

First episode of Season 2, they show Elliot's composition notebook. Notebook is called "Red Wheelbarrow" referring to the poem that Wellick recites to him in the scene before Stage 2 is revealed.
Question now is what actually ended up happening to Stage 2.

 

[1487610420]

Just found another little Easter egg supporting my previous post.

First episode of Season 2, they show Elliot's composition notebook. Notebook is called "Red Wheelbarrow" referring to the poem that Wellick recites to him in the scene before Stage 2 is revealed.
Question now is what actually ended up happening to Stage 2.

Let me summary 4u

 

[violet_crown]

Let me summary 4u

She's my favorite character in this show. Angela's probably number two now that she's gotten her shit together.