Cooperation: Islam and Christianity

[Mustafa]

Yes, a warriors INFP vaccine, made me doctor, known for great presicion, like Aspies me. Now i get Parkinsons slightly espescially when i am angry and getting demented" at age 30. Like cavemen. Like Sumowrestlers. Like Muhammed Ali the boxer.

 

[ZNP-TBA]

[MENTION=26151]Mustafa[/MENTION]

^What I see when I read your posts (with the occasional Lucifer thrown in that mess somewhere).

 

[Mustafa]

You're competing. What is your mission? Lucy.

 

[Luke O]

[MENTION=27574]Cowardly[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] and [MENTION=25403]ZombieNinjaPirate[/MENTION]

So when I launched an "attack" at the government (a vaccine really, but it was a secret by that time). I consicided with the Maya Calendar Judgment Day which everyone was waiting fearfully of, and maybe agnostically. What is interesting and new information is that I am born by two dates, one real and one unreal (like the Prophet Muhammed, so this tactic is repeating) and I am born both within the 13 horoscope or starsign. Like i said this vaccine was a secret, so my brothers in arms (the world) created this myth to conincide with the Maybe Day of Judgment so people would get by suprise. This 13 starsign is called Ophiocus and is a Man (Messiah) wrestling with a snake (the Devilish world and Lucifer).

So, I would like to have seen their faces when all this happened altogether!

ANd that is INFP, one day they cant get up to shower and another day they feel like this can rule the world by enthusiasm. For one moment, the world was mine .

Those motherfucking snakes.

 

[Mustafa]

*nostalgia*

You know, The Prophet Muhammed got invisibility like Buddha (spirituality), and can also produce fire which is choleric (warrior) in MBTI/KTS which comes from yellow bile produced in the stomach. Fire is heart, love, and burns wood liver. Wood is vitality and energy in Chinese Wu Xing. Woog got the emotion anger.

 

[Mustafa]

[MENTION=6877]Marmotini[/MENTION] I am sorry if I upset you, because i don't want to talk bad about someone in my faith or anyone. But look at this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FCALyYTN5Rs

Also [MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] since you're interested in 9/11 and USA.

Peace

I remind you, i dont demand you reject Jesus as God, i just don't believe that. I use my magnetic power like the moon, like magneto!

 

[Thalassa]

[MENTION=6877]Marmotini[/MENTION] I am sorry if I upset you, because i don't want to talk bad about someone in my faith or anyone. But look at this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FCALyYTN5Rs

Also [MENTION=3325]Mole[/MENTION] since you're interested in 9/11 and USA.

Peace

I remind you, i dont demand you reject Jesus as God, i just don't believe that. I use my magnetic power like the moon, like magneto!

Ok. I see in the end times you believe Christian and Muslim will unite against a common enemy and that you believe the second coming of Jesus/Isa will coincide jointly with your own. ..um, version of Revelations, in which you also think that unbelievers will be destroyed by fire after a "pleasant breeze" takes away all believers.

What sticks out to me about your faiths end time message is how people will not follow Islam correctly and everyone will call themselves an apostle...i.e. the Islamic spate of terrorist groups, and your belief the sun will rise in the West coincides interestingly with pole shifting or earth wobbling, which could worsen in a century, give or take.

I just hope you really want peace because some of the things you say suggest war, tbh.

 

[Mustafa]

Ok. I see in the end times you believe Christian and Muslim will unite against a common enemy and that you believe the second coming of Jesus/Isa will coincide jointly with your own. ..um, version of Revelations, in which you also think that unbelievers will be destroyed by fire after a "pleasant breeze" takes away all believers.

What sticks out to me about your faiths end time message is how people will not follow Islam correctly and everyone will call themselves an apostle...i.e. the Islamic spate of terrorist groups, and your belief the sun will rise in the West coincides interestingly with pole shifting or earth wobbling, which could worsen in a century, give or take.

I just hope you really want peace because some of the things you say suggest war, tbh.

Where did you get all this information?
But i believe Jesus will return; when the world is globalized. I believe there is something important about globalization. Muslims and Christians uniting against a common enemy, that is reasonable, when we find a common word between us, we Mouslims will drag you there maybe , no, abctually i don't know.

We are single edged sword, on one side we cut and on the other we heal and improve.

Edit: I am not asking out of weakness.

 

[Coriolis]

Not when it comes to children. As I said, there's a difference, but a child will take everything their parents say to heart, making all the other perspectives seem incorrect by default. They grow up favoring the beliefs that were passed down by their parents. I wonder if in many cases, even as adults, there is no questioning at all.

This is not a fair comparison. As far as I know, language doesn't touch on ontology.

Not a bad thing, in my opinion. The child would be exposed to many other perspectives without possessing a preset bias towards any in particular. It's silly for me to assume that, given that sort of intellectual freedom from the start, most wouldn't turn out Christian in a mostly Christian society, but the principle doesn't seem flawed to me. It allows for more open-mindedness and more questioning.

The child will most likely fall prey to some other singular influence, long before they have the maturity to consider anything critically. This could be another influential adult like a relative or teacher, or peers at school, or simply the prevailing atmosphere, such as fundamentalist Christianity in the Bible Belt. Parents who don't want their kids simply absorbing the first, most popular, or most forcefully expressed religious perspective they encounter will have no choice but to counter it with their own views.

Now consider the converse. Parents teach a child their own beliefs. Sooner or later the child will meet others with different beliefs, usually at school, perhaps closer to home. A child will say to their parents something like: "Billy says people who do X are going to hell", or "Rachel was absent yesterday because of a religious holiday, but it wasn't a holiday", or even "Why does Grandma always make us say grace before dinner?" Parents can handle such questions and observations in a way that makes it clear that other people have different beliefs and that's OK; or they can handle it in a judgmental way, labelling the other people wrong and trying to keep the child from associating with them (even if it is Grandma).

As for language, you might be surprised how much it influences, or at least is related to, one's perspective on life. When I have studied foreign languages, I have felt very much like I was learning to see the world through the eyes of a different people.

 

[Cowardly]

The child will most likely fall prey to some other singular influence, long before they have the maturity to consider anything critically. This could be another influential adult like a relative or teacher, or peers at school, or simply the prevailing atmosphere, such as fundamentalist Christianity in the Bible Belt. Parents who don't want their kids simply absorbing the first, most popular, or most forcefully expressed religious perspective they encounter will have no choice but to counter it with their own views.

Now consider the converse. Parents teach a child their own beliefs. Sooner or later the child will meet others with different beliefs, usually at school, perhaps closer to home. A child will say to their parents something like: "Billy says people who do X are going to hell", or "Rachel was absent yesterday because of a religious holiday, but it wasn't a holiday", or even "Why does Grandma always make us say grace before dinner?" Parents can handle such questions and observations in a way that makes it clear that other people have different beliefs and that's OK; or they can handle it in a judgmental way, labelling the other people wrong and trying to keep the child from associating with them (even if it is Grandma).

This depends on where they grow up. Also, they don't need to counter it with their own views, they might just as well teach the child to starting judging those beliefs by their merits right away.

Dogma is much easily passed on if it's the parents who do it. How would the world be like if instead of telling our children that we believe in something (most of the time not even saying that we believe, just saying it's true), we told them that that is a part no one quite figured out yet?

I was discussing something similar with my friend the other day, how we barely know how children would act and how society would be like if we didn't exert so much influence from the moment they were born. Would society be purer, in a way? As children only learn how to judge viewpoints for their merits and logical consistency, not through any other belief they might have received? But it was mostly about how gender roles/expectations/stereotypes shaped us and how much of what separated men and women were natural and how much was made up.

As for language, you might be surprised how much it influences, or at least is related to, one's perspective on life. When I have studied foreign languages, I have felt very much like I was learning to see the world through the eyes of a different people.

How so?

I use my magnetic power like the moon, like magneto!

:randy:

 

[Mustafa]

[MENTION=27574]Cowardly[/MENTION] Are you seriously not afraid? I can't believe it!

 

[Cowardly]

[MENTION=27574]Cowardly[/MENTION] Are you seriously not afraid? I can't believe it!

Afraid of what?

edit: Magneto?

 

[Mustafa]

It was A joke.

 

[Cowardly]

It was A joke.

I see...

 

[Mustafa]

Running aind running aiway when i'm young and barking at me when i'm weak

 

[Mustafa]

 

[Mustafa]

If the lady was your wife and you suspected her of being 'too independent' you would hit her?

The Quran in Sura 4:34 says:

4:34 . . . If you fear highhandedness from your wives, remind them [of the teaching of God], then ignore them when you go to bed, then hit them. If they obey you, you have no right to act against them. God is most high and great.

...Divorce is the most hated halal in Allahs sight (bidden). I could have divorced her. When our marriage turn out impossible, but if she obeys like it says i must treat her fairly. You guys including Coriolis are paranoid. Any proximity to 'death' and you not justifiable go insane. Aren't INFP supposed to have dark thoughts? I can't heal you guys if you keep resisting. This FiNe is as normal as breathing for me.

 

[Mustafa]

Bahai faith honors Jesus, and Muhammad, and Abraham. As expressed in their doctrine of progressive revelation, all the divine prophets came to reveal the same truth to humanity, in different ways suitable to the different times and circumstances. And the Bahai's are persecuted in Shiite Iran.

I can't speak for Iran. But Shia milits in Iraq take yazidees whom worship the devil, our and Gods enemy and place them in the epicenter of Iraq for protection from ISIS. Shias are real men. And i know you are a woman. But. Like you enjoy sending me to hell (banning me) one day Allah might send you to hell. But do you care about that?

 

[Coriolis]

I can't speak for Iran. But Shia milits in Iraq take yazidees whom worship the devil, our and Gods enemy and place them in the epicenter of Iraq for protection from ISIS. Shias are real men. And i know you are a woman. But. Like you enjoy sending me to hell (banning me) one day Allah might send you to hell. But do you care about that?

If your idea of hell is being banned from the forum for a period, then no, I cannot say I care overmuch.

 

[Mustafa]

No, real hell is much worse. Like the prophet Muhammed and accidentally Plato says, what we experience in this life are only shaddows of the real.