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Cooperation: Islam and Christianity

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Aw, I don't think you are either (but yes, they are the same).

Objectively speaking I don't think Lucifer was such a bad guy (all things considered), he was just largely misunderstood :shrug:

I take it as a compliment :newwink:
 

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I'm an atheist and I find this annoying too. :dry:

Sorry. ..I know there are more educated or less willfully angry atheists (some are so opposed to their upbringing or culture they side with Islam or say they're all the same in a rather adolescent manner) ...I don't hate all Muslims or want them to die, but comparing Jesus and Muhammad seems to be some overarching liberal need to excuse Islam... it's like um...once they become the majority in a nation they're essentially commanded to oppress others who won't conform.
 

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Go say that in a Muslim theocracy and see how long you hold on to your head.
Allah has no wife, no son like me. He is my rolemodel. He does what he wants. I am not afraid of telling imams that, or priests, they are very logical, i worry about the fools, i guess i won't discuss advanced matters with them.

I dont agree he is miunderstood. I think he is was undercover Ninja. I told my imam i am lucifer in fb he gave me thumbs up (i told him two things).
 

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Sorry. ..I know there are more educated or less willfully angry atheists (some are so opposed to their upbringing or culture they side with Islam or say they're all the same in a rather adolescent manner) ...I don't hate all Muslims or want them to die, but comparing Jesus and Muhammad seems to be some overarching liberal need to excuse Islam... it's like um...once they become the majority in a nation they're essentially commanded to oppress others who won't conform.
So you'll kill the babies like Moses and the other children- Face it like a man!
 

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So you'll kill the babies like Moses and the other children- Face it like a man!

What? I said I don't want to kill anyone. Christians are commanded not to kill, and Jesus told us to love our enemies.

You shouldn't ever be "the majority" in a Western country though.

I'm a woman, btw.
 

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Sorry. ..I know there are more educated or less willfully angry atheists (some are so opposed to their upbringing or culture they side with Islam or say they're all the same in a rather adolescent manner) ...I don't hate all Muslims or want them to die, but comparing Jesus and Muhammad seems to be some overarching liberal need to excuse Islam... it's like um...once they become the majority in a nation they're essentially commanded to oppress others who won't conform.

No need to apologize. I agree there are some who de-convert from religion to spite their parents or upbringing. They typically never abandon that adolescent rage and become mentally trapped in a time vortex where religion was being shoved down their throats. I, however, came from a Catholic home and they were mostly fair with me. I wasn't forced to go to Church often and catechism wasn't rigid. My objections to theism isn't on personal grounds or inspired by personal bad experiences with religion. But I agree, people way to too often throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak. I personally agree with a lot of the values most religions try to convey across such as the importance of family, community, and the emphasis on objective morality ( I am not a relativist, not really). Just because I believe there is no magical deity doesn't mean I don't think some of these principles still hold value and liberal atheists are usually shocked when I don't tow the line.
 

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Are you Cristian? Why do you hate Islam?

Likely because in your majority countries a display of a cross or star of David can lead to arrest or execution, and because there's no erasing Muhammad being a war lord.

Muslims are fine in small communities, but I know you're commanded to convert BY FORCE. There's a difference between evangelism and converting by force, from what I understand Muslims are only well behaved when they don't have the clear upper hand.

That's why European liberals are extremely foolish, if they want to preserve their secular liberal democracy.
 

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Likely because in your majority countries a display of a cross or star of David can lead to arrest or execution, and because there's no erasing Muhammad being a war lord.

Muslims are fine in small communities, but I know you're commanded to convert BY FORCE. There's a difference between evangelism and converting by force, from what I understand Muslims are only well behaved when they don't have the clear upper hand.

That's why European liberals are extremely foolish, if they want to preserve their secular liberal democracy.
No we believe in free will, free choise, no nagging. There are fools, yes. Everywhere. The Quran commands it.

:cry:

I will leave you be and get banned maybe if you don't want me here, but i have noone to talk to. I got 6 fools occupied by fitness and pumping around me.:(
 

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No we believe in free will, free choise, no nagging. There are fools, yes. Everywhere. The Quran commands it.

:cry:

I will leave you be and get banned maybe if you don't want me here, but i have noone to talk to. I got 6 fools occupied by fitness and pumping around me.:(

Where in the world is the worst place to be a Christian? | World news | The Guardian

I'm pretty sure you're a sock puppet...even the cry cry nobody to talk to pity trip seems to be a parody of how conservative Muslims trick Western liberals.
 

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Sorry. I was talking to Pirate.

"Yarden Mariuma writes: "Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie . A concept whose meaning has varied significantly among Islamic sects, scholars, countries, and political regimes, it nevertheless is one of the key terms used by recent anti-Muslim polemicists."
 

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Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors.

There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.

How about .... I have Aspergers and sensitive stress, communication, and need distance? Hold back ... Hold back the river let me look in your eyes...
 

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"Yarden Mariuma writes: "Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie . A concept whose meaning has varied significantly among Islamic sects, scholars, countries, and political regimes, it nevertheless is one of the key terms used by recent anti-Muslim polemicists."
It is not complicated. Every horse falls. Everone lies. If the gestapo wanted your jews, wouldn't you lie about it? I don't think it is permissable to lie otherwise. You won't put a mark on me.
 
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