Word up.I think the differences between men and women are vastly over-rated. Most of them are socially formed. Of course, being social creations, they are subject to popular belief, so ironically, people like you reinforce their existence even as you complain about them.
And for the record, the majority of the time you make some snarky comment about men and women, your depiction of women is closer to what I'm like.
Captain Chick said:
Magic said:
There may indeed be experiences that apply exclusively to one sex or the other, but it's important to try discern the difference between (1) societal conditioning and/or physiological-based differences and (2) what are most likely universal human experiences, and it's important to try not to blur those lines too much or with reckless abandon. I guess the thing I hate most about these generalizations is that they're not carefully or well thought-out.
Hey! I totally opened up in this thread! See my steamy, detailed, sexy post a couple pages back.
+1
It's a pet peeve of mine to read or hear someone make broad generalizations about how "all men act" or how "all women behave." It's like, are you kidding?
I don't mind when people make generalizations about men and women in jest or mockery, but when they are completely serious about dividing the human experience into what males experience and what females experience, I just don't understand the logic. If you want to talk about how men and women differ physiologically or societally, and how THAT might have an impact on their behavior, go ahead, but don't try to take universal human emotions and experiences and assign them exclusively and totally to one sex or the other, rather than to the realm of all humans.
WOAH. Mempy just got serious on your asses.
Edited to add:
I also agree with Magic that the differences between men and women are just vastly exaggerated.
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Or I could pick gibbons, where the two are about the same.
I hate the animal kingdom examples... Too much cherry picking. And it's also something of a non-sequitur once we identify how different each species is. We are our own species, so I don't know how much we can conclude about ourselves by looking at one of them. It was like when Kiddo was trying to claim that we should naturally be like bonobos, because they were our closest relatives. I was trying to explain to him how little sense that made.
Um, do you um,, like not believe in um, evolution?
Regardless, obviously you are not much of a biologist, to each his own I guess.
And on philosophical grounds, I really have to agree with her about this. If we are going to make a mistake(and we probably are) I'd much rather under-estimate gender differences than over-estimate them.On the other hand, it's entirely possible I'm ascribing too little, but I'd much rather go that route.
Fair enough.Well, maybe the effect that testosterone and estrogen have on experiences is more pronounced than I first thought, and maybe I will do some research on it, but I'm still very wary of seeing the differences as vast, and also wary of trying to take experiences that seem supiciously universal and say that they are only the domain of either the male or female half of the universe. I'm not saying there aren't physiological differences that affect the experiences of males and females, just that I'd be careful of ascribing too much to them. On the other hand, it's entirely possible I'm ascribing too little, but I'd much rather go that route.
I sense sarcasm, but then again, one never really knows with you.
Fair enough.
I sense sarcasm, but then again, one never really knows with you.
