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What do you do when no career interests you?

SwimmerGal97

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In an ideal world, I would be peteretta pan. Whilst growing up seems great in its added independence and freedom which I crave, there's also that little thing about jobs. This school year will be my last and then I'm out into the big world, but I have no clue what to do. I don't have a 'thing': if you put me with science students, I seem very artsy/humanitiesy, but put me amongst the arts and humanities, I'll seem very pragmatic and no-nonsense. I'm not a scientist and I don't want a career in science, so that narrows my options a little. I've been on degree webpages and job sites looking at careers and career areas and nothing interests me for more than a couple of weeks or even days. I go through a brief period of absolutely loving something then drop it cold and never look back. I don't want a career that pays megabucks, I just want to be able to wake up everyday knowing I'm doing something I love. How do you do that?! Why does nothing seem interesting anymore- even as a hobby?(unless you count daydreaming and escapism in books, TV and film as a hobby) Does anyone else feel like this?
 

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In an ideal world, I would be peteretta pan. Whilst growing up seems great in its added independence and freedom which I crave, there's also that little thing about jobs. This school year will be my last and then I'm out into the big world, but I have no clue what to do. I don't have a 'thing': if you put me with science students, I seem very artsy/humanitiesy, but put me amongst the arts and humanities, I'll seem very pragmatic and no-nonsense. I'm not a scientist and I don't want a career in science, so that narrows my options a little. I've been on degree webpages and job sites looking at careers and career areas and nothing interests me for more than a couple of weeks or even days. I go through a brief period of absolutely loving something then drop it cold and never look back. I don't want a career that pays megabucks, I just want to be able to wake up everyday knowing I'm doing something I love. How do you do that?! Why does nothing seem interesting anymore- even as a hobby?(unless you count daydreaming and escapism in books, TV and film as a hobby) Does anyone else feel like this?

Yeah, I do.

I think its important to have a strong work ethic and any sort of work is preferrable to unemployment, earning money is an important thing to do, on the other hand its important not to have to deal with colleagues or management who will make you sick, I dont mean that as a metaphor for prove aggrivating but actually impact on your mental or physical health, so be prepared to leave one workplace for another, possibly even change career.

I'm in a field of work now and possibly a job which I will be doing until I die probably, I dont see much prospects for retirement any time soon, and with the passage of years it gets more difficult to see how it would be easy to retrain. I think if I'd seriously thought about this years ago I would have tried more things, trained for different things and done different jobs. My CV is pretty singular. That reflects singular interests which wax and wane but I cant help but think the life of a modern day rennaisance man would have been better.

Its not like the barriers between secure, pensionable, professional jobs and others are not being broken down by the day and eventually, with the possible exception of politicians and managers, the culture of hiring and firing flexibility, which I think is sub-optimal in terms of business outcomes and best practice but who cares about my opinion anyway, will spread to every walk of life.
 

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Same!
Some say I shouldn't do art because I will be poor and unemployed; and others continue to encourage me to go to art college.
I was also thinking about doing a career in a biological science but I can't do math and my qualifications say no. I just finished my year of school and in a way I am so happy but I got a lot of help and decided to go to college in order to get experience in deciding what I will do. You could say i'm taking a gap year, but not really. I'm incredibly indecisive. I don't understand how easily my classmates decided what they were going to do for the rest of their life. But you will get a bit of help in your career choices in your next school year :bye: You seem artistic, maybe even an author type; I think there are a lot more career in art/design than people realize.
 

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You seem artistic, maybe even an author type; I think there are a lot more career in art/design than people realize.


It's funny you should say that, I am naturally artistic and have even considered writing (I naturally have that mindset where I narrate my life and love finding the perfect words to capture what I want to say, my imagination takes over and I live in my head taking the boring everyday stuff and turning it into something dramatic and exciting- if only I could slow those thoughts down enough to get pen to paper), I just have difficulty making the vision in my head a reality. How have you found studying art? I am considering a foundation degree in it but really struggle at school, both with follow through on ideas (but in whatever I do, I know I'm going to have to change in that area) and with what my idea of art is not fitting the marking requirements- I have no interest dragging out one project over 9 months and for me, art (not just painting and drawing but books and film) is about escapism or capturing a snapshot of life that opens up the imagination, whether that's to somewhere new or triggering a memory and all the theoretical stuff behind it ruins it for me. You can't capture a fleeting feeling in the same way if you have to wait months on end to produce the image you want to produce. I find studying something takes the fun out of it. Doing art when I HAVE to instead of when I want to or feel inspired to do so ruins it for me. I think the same would apply to writing if I decided to take up a writing course. And good on you for following what you love doing! I really respect people who do that :)
 

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You can't capture a fleeting feeling in the same way if you have to wait months on end to produce the image you want to produce. I find studying something takes the fun out of it. Doing art when I HAVE to instead of when I want to or feel inspired to do so ruins it for me. I think the same would apply to writing if I decided to take up a writing course.

This is very true. Art in my own time is much more fun compared to what is was like in class. I really didn't enjoy art at school much because of rarely being to draw what actually inspires me, and neither did anyone else studying at my level. When I made a portfolio last year it was hard work and I was taking a lot of subjects alongside it then ^-^ Choosing the right theme in art is important, if you get that opportunity. I guess my timetable for art class was quite flexible too. But I guess there is more choice in the subject area of any course when studying at a higher level. There is a little more choice as to what subject area you want to study specifically, I think. The first few levels of studying are more about proving potential, before choosing what they want to do/ specialize in. And thanks!
 

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I say do something that you can tolerate that makes you a decent wage. This may sound depressing, but the world is an absolute crap shoot. You can go into any field and be absolutely miserable or absolutely happy beyond belief, but at the end of the day- you really just have to play with the world. Certain jobs are more designed towards particular individuals, and the more artsy type might be more likely to find satisfaction in a job suiting their natural inclinations, but there is so much with this that is generally, in my opinion, not well understood. If you go into a field with limitations, one with large demand and low opportunity, especially if it is particularly narrow and your skillset is less transferrable, you are very likely to be dissatisfied. You will get stuck with limited options under the pretense of a wide variety, and that will be disappointing as all hell. If you go into something lessser known, broader, blah blah, something that less people want to do, then you have a much much greater selection of positions, dislike one move on there you go- and guess what, the world wants experience, decide you want to do something else, something more passion based, and there you go- you are set.

The very idea of having a job sucks. It does- jobs suck, they just do. This is what I really want to say, do something you can tolerate and save what you love for yourself. If what you love becomes a job then it becomes tainted. You put something on a schedule, on another persons schedule, on the systems schedule, and it ceases to be yours. The world kills passion, most of it- and most people who believe that they do have a passion but cannot determine what is, cannot keep up. They just get crushed by what they love.
 

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In an ideal world, I would be peteretta pan. Whilst growing up seems great in its added independence and freedom which I crave, there's also that little thing about jobs. This school year will be my last and then I'm out into the big world, but I have no clue what to do. I don't have a 'thing': if you put me with science students, I seem very artsy/humanitiesy, but put me amongst the arts and humanities, I'll seem very pragmatic and no-nonsense. I'm not a scientist and I don't want a career in science, so that narrows my options a little. I've been on degree webpages and job sites looking at careers and career areas and nothing interests me for more than a couple of weeks or even days. I go through a brief period of absolutely loving something then drop it cold and never look back. I don't want a career that pays megabucks, I just want to be able to wake up everyday knowing I'm doing something I love. How do you do that?! Why does nothing seem interesting anymore- even as a hobby?(unless you count daydreaming and escapism in books, TV and film as a hobby) Does anyone else feel like this?
There was a brief period of time when I didn't know what I wanted to do; or more precisely, in hindsight, I thought my first choice was not viable, so I tried to move on. I approached this in 3 ways. First, I made sure I always had a job at least, something to pay the bills. Second, I tried to get jobs that I might be interested in, as a way to try them out and also to learn something new. Third, I asked myself what else I wanted to be doing, aside of work, whether that was hobbies, recreation, travel, etc. I tried to incorporate some of this into my life, keeping in mind that one of these activities could turn out to lead to work.

After a few temporary jobs that were clearly not what I wanted to do long-term, I joined the military. My reasoning was that I would go places, learn new things, get good experience, and do something useful while trying to figure out the rest. All of that happened. If you are truly at a loss of what to do, the military is not a bad option, and can be relatively short term if you decide against making it a career. There are also short-term service opportunities that can similarly give you time to figure things out while remaining productively engaged.
 

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In an ideal world, I would be peteretta pan. Whilst growing up seems great in its added independence and freedom which I crave, there's also that little thing about jobs. This school year will be my last and then I'm out into the big world, but I have no clue what to do. I don't have a 'thing': if you put me with science students, I seem very artsy/humanitiesy, but put me amongst the arts and humanities, I'll seem very pragmatic and no-nonsense. I'm not a scientist and I don't want a career in science, so that narrows my options a little. I've been on degree webpages and job sites looking at careers and career areas and nothing interests me for more than a couple of weeks or even days. I go through a brief period of absolutely loving something then drop it cold and never look back. I don't want a career that pays megabucks, I just want to be able to wake up everyday knowing I'm doing something I love. How do you do that?! Why does nothing seem interesting anymore- even as a hobby?(unless you count daydreaming and escapism in books, TV and film as a hobby) Does anyone else feel like this?


I feel ya.

My hobbies are reading, writing, music, drawing, travelling, taking classes and learning new knowledge, philosophizing away and pondering about the meaning of life, doing volunteer work. The real world doesn't have a job that aligned with my hobbies though.
In my country, the jobs here are mainly office clerical jobs, retail jobs, warehouse jobs, childcare jobs. I tried working in these jobs but I got let go from all these jobs.
This real world is such a tough place for us to survive out there, especially for creative/artistic people like ourselves. :shrug: I'm not sure what advice to give here, but maybe just work in whatever jobs that you are able to find, and if they fire you, then look for another one? :shrug: At least, that is how I cope with my situation. I can't find any way out of my situation, so I just suck it up and work in jobs that I hate, and if I get fired, then I just go look for another job.
 

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I find something I can tolerate. As of now, my current job I cannot, so I'm looking at more cushy desk jobs where I can work my ass off at the gym and sit all day and feel good about it.
 
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I always knew that I wanted to be a research scientist. While I actually became a research scientist (after 9 years of training in university) I realised along the way that my preconceptions of what the job involved was wrong. I then started to look for other options that would utilise my passion and training. But I don't regret it because I could never have gotten to this point if I hadn't actually gone through that experience.

I had similar conversations with my younger cousins who were stressing about what to study in university because they believed that your degree leads to a career. Truth is, unless you're going into a professional field (medicine, law, research, engineering, accountancy), or study in a brand-name school and build connections, most people don't end up working in the field that they majored in. If you don't know what you want to do or what you love, I'd recommend picking a general business or science degree and hungrily grabbing every possible experience in college. That gives you the most employment/career options, and the experiences will help you to - if not define what you love or want to build a career in - at least let you cut out what you would rather die than do.

What you should NEVER do: pick something to do because it "sounds interesting" and stay in your dorm all the time to study, hoping that a 4.0 GPA will get you a job/career.
 

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First of all, the bills won't wait for you to figure this out, so find work for their sake to buy you time to think. Then, try looking around for where your interests could be of use to others and in the projects of more experienced people.

Just IME, when we feel we don't fit in economically, it can be that we're defining doing what we love too narrowly and thinking that it necessarily means creative control. We then declare that there's nothing out there for us when actually someone might need our specialty for their vision and be willing to pay. Eventually, collaborating others will build up a portfolio of work for you that can eventually back you up if you want to start a project independently someday and need to employ your own support. Even in creative/humanities work, you have to work your way up to making the decisions.

What you should NEVER do: pick something to do because it "sounds interesting" and stay in your dorm all the time to study, hoping that a 4.0 GPA will get you a job/career.
This, from experience. It's quicker and more fun to just set the tuition money on fire.
 

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Whoa. Are you me?

I think it's part of being a perceiver. I jumped from major to major ultimately deciding I was wasting money on college as I was far too indecisive. Went from art, to environmental sciences, psychology, anthropology, and finally landed on nursing after taking some time out of school. I finally decided I didn't need to do something I loved so much as do something that had meaning - and helping others fulfilled that ideal.
 

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Find a job that you don't mind too much and use your free time to learn about things that interest you.
 

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It matters not which field you choose, you will inevitably grow to loath what you do, because you do it too much, and too much of anything is a bad thing. It's best to pick something you can tolerate doing without going crazy or breaking your back, make as much money as efficiently as possible doing it, so that whenever you want to do something you really would enjoy doing, you can use your money to do it.
 

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In an ideal world, I would be peteretta pan. Whilst growing up seems great in its added independence and freedom which I crave, there's also that little thing about jobs. This school year will be my last and then I'm out into the big world, but I have no clue what to do. I don't have a 'thing': if you put me with science students, I seem very artsy/humanitiesy, but put me amongst the arts and humanities, I'll seem very pragmatic and no-nonsense. I'm not a scientist and I don't want a career in science, so that narrows my options a little. I've been on degree webpages and job sites looking at careers and career areas and nothing interests me for more than a couple of weeks or even days. I go through a brief period of absolutely loving something then drop it cold and never look back. I don't want a career that pays megabucks, I just want to be able to wake up everyday knowing I'm doing something I love. How do you do that?! Why does nothing seem interesting anymore- even as a hobby?(unless you count daydreaming and escapism in books, TV and film as a hobby) Does anyone else feel like this?

The short answer to "What do you do when no career interests you?" might be, 'invent it'.

To which age range do you belong?

You're just more Renaissance, and given to it, than others might be. I think most people are interested in a wide variety of subjects (and are themselves untapped Renaissance people), but they somehow end up choosing or walking into more pragmatic paths, because they have to support themselves, they have dependents, desire a certain standard of living, and so forth. This life choice is also great, and some consider themselves blessed to have employment, but it's usually more pleasant if there's choice with intent involved. Those who live the 'daily grind' without complaint are some of the coolest people around; the fucking awesome ones do it with joy. Lots of people work at "meh" jobs they can tolerate, but make their time away from that job count, and for them that is a good deal.

What you do, or what I'd suggest you do would hinge on many factors: do you have a financial support system you can lean on, do you have ideas, do you generate ideas, are you curious, can you adapt and combine your long and short-term visions, are you passionate? Experientially, I've seen passion and adaptability carry people to amazing places; it appears that you have to feel an unavoidable, Sisyphean dedication to yourself in order to be happy and content during the spells when things aren't always going well. There will be ups, downs, and seemingly-interminable plateaus, and you need a certain inner constitution and sense of humour about the world to see yourself through.

If you genuinely are in a place where you don't have to rush into finding financial stability/basic survival, then it could be worthwhile to start by narrowing your focus to what you actually enjoy - find the thing that makes time disappear and do it as much as possible. If nothing else, at least you're stoking your passion, which will draw more passion to you. If you simply need to make money, don't look for a career but a job that allows you to learn something new, work with good/interesting people, go somewhere you want to go; or find places you like and find a job there: bookstore, cafe, museum, art supply shop, art gallery, darkroom assistant, the playhouse/theatre, science centre, libraries, video rental stores if they still exist where you live, wherever. If you like where you are and the people who are there with you, you're going to have a good time.

I've also seen friends who worked as baristas or as sales associates at The Gap to support themselves, but also manage to find time for their true passions and turn that into a living, even on the side. The most common denominator, I find, is that if you're passionate, exploiting your passion and sharing it, being enthusiastic, encouraging others to their passions, then you'll always be in demand. So you could be working here or there, but then meet a 'random' person, and they'll offer you an opportunity. Like at my coffee place there's an amazing barista and everyone loves him. He's got a wonderful way about him, great sense of humour, KIND, and I don't know how he does it but he never feels fake. And he's a little older, maybe late-30s, early-40s, maybe even 89 but his joie and passion just makes him glow. He's constantly getting offered other jobs by his customers, because they want him around. I'm sure he eats for free and gets free desserts from the bakery and walks on water and I'm exaggerating. Anyway, he's 'just' a barista, but people see him as more than that; he's an asset, and his Renaissance nature allows him to talk with anyone. He's also very humble, but confident. He makes coffee drinks for people but most of the people go there for him and his uplifting energy. If he left his job the cafe would see a dip in business, as it sort of does on the days he's not there; it's easier for me to snag a free table on his off days.

What was my point? (See? Awesome Barista made me lose my train of thought!) Oh right: there is a good side to not fitting in to boxes made at a cardboard factory that falls apart when wet. Don't let something so flimsy be a goal. If you're being inundated with 'career counselor' advice from everyone you know, listen, scan for something useful, but don't take any of it seriously unless your intuition tells you otherwise. The best thing you could be doing is that which elicits your passion and curiosity. The omggetintoacareerNOW pressure and rat-race cheering is an illusion.

Keep exploring for what makes you light up. I mean it, you can spot people with passion from afar; moths to a flame.
 

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windoverlake said:
I've also seen friends who worked as baristas or as sales associates at The Gap to support themselves, but also manage to find time for their true passions and turn that into a living, even on the side. The most common denominator, I find, is that if you're passionate, exploiting your passion and sharing it, being enthusiastic, encouraging others to their passions, then you'll always be in demand. So you could be working here or there, but then meet a 'random' person, and they'll offer you an opportunity. Like at my coffee place there's an amazing barista and everyone loves him. He's got a wonderful way about him, great sense of humour, KIND, and I don't know how he does it but he never feels fake. And he's a little older, maybe late-30s, early-40s, maybe even 89 but his joie and passion just makes him glow. He's constantly getting offered other jobs by his customers, because they want him around.

So I'm nowhere close to being the Totally Joyful Barista you illustrate (haha) - at my best I can be, as I'm a work in progress -- but I do this while attempting to forge my path / figure out my path towards something that I DO want to be doing -- having done the 'traditional' career for 10+ years prior.

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I agree with most of the other posters that in lieu of not being one of those people who has always known what they wanted to do/be when they grew up (I never did or have), it's best to just start somewhere, try things out, learn what you do and don't like, and you'll gradually start making sense of things. Also, finding something you are OK with is a really positive start -- because you'll probably find there are a lot of things / the bulk of things that you don't like at all.
 
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