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I haven't heard of that, but it wouldn't surprise me. It's not too hard to demonstrate.
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Crazy!
I haven't heard of that, but it wouldn't surprise me. It's not too hard to demonstrate.
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Should be a good movie.
On the subject of torture, I don't know how I feel about it.
It's a catch-22. Basically the person administering the water boarding would need to know the person's guilt, and simply be looking for a way to extract an admission to it for documentation purposes. A person being water boarded is probably going to tell the torturer (for lack of a better term) pretty much anything they want to hear in order to put a halt to the water boarding process... That doesn't seem like a surefire way to get the actual "truth".
It's a catch-22. Basically the person administering the water boarding would need to know the person's guilt, and simply be looking for a way to extract an admission to it for documentation purposes. A person being water boarded is probably going to tell the torturer (for lack of a better term) pretty much anything they want to hear in order to put a halt to the water boarding process... That doesn't seem like a surefire way to get the actual "truth".
That's most liable to happen with untrained prisoners or civilians.
Trained opposition, as in the kind of elite within terrorist organizations most likely to have strategically valuable info, are liable to laugh at interrogation techniques approved by the UN.
(4) Contrary to popular belief, no amount of training is guaranteed to make a person "torture-proof." The more accurate heuristic is "It's not IF a person will tell what they know, it's WHEN they will tell, and that is after the correct stimulus is applied, and just as important, their questioning performed in a systematic way to ensure they are offering useful information (checking preliminary resposnes against known information, etc.) instead of making anything up just to get out of the hot seat.
Yes, I heard that SEALs and pilots do some training with waterboarding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival,_Evasion,_Resistance_and_EscapeI haven't heard of that, but it wouldn't surprise me. It's not too hard to demonstrate.
Exactly.It's a catch-22. Basically the person administering the water boarding would need to know the person's guilt, and simply be looking for a way to extract an admission to it for documentation purposes. A person being water boarded is probably going to tell the torturer (for lack of a better term) pretty much anything they want to hear in order to put a halt to the water boarding process... That doesn't seem like a surefire way to get the actual "truth".
I also want to add that, even though I'm nosey and want to see it, I ultimately feel that this movie should NOT have been made. There has been too much talk and media press about the SEALs. All this attention is putting their lives in danger. I wish all the attention would die down and quick.
While this is true, it's difficult to make that argument when people who were there already wrote books about it and they just had that other big SEAL movie.
It will probably be a good movie but the title is kind of annoying. I've heard "O Dark Thirty" multiple times but I've never heard someone say "Zero Dark Thirty" unless they were talking about this movie.
I haven't heard of that, but it wouldn't surprise me. It's not too hard to demonstrate.
What does O Dark Thirty mean? 12:30am? I've never heard the phrase before.
It's not an actual time. It's really just like late at night/early in the morning. The two times I've normally heard it are right before either a cool guy story or everyone starts groaning and complaining.
While this is true, it's difficult to make that argument when people who were there already wrote books about it and they just had that other big SEAL movie.
It will probably be a good movie but the title is kind of annoying. I've heard "O Dark Thirty" multiple times but I've never heard someone say "Zero Dark Thirty" unless they were talking about this movie.
Unless this is some Navy thing, I'd say it's a research fail on par with calling every special operations unit SF, which they hopefully don't do in this movie.
[MENTION=7]Jennifer[/MENTION]
"Zero Dark Thirty (or 15, 20, etc)" is a way of saying midnight and whatever the minutes are in military time. In military time, midnight is written "0000" (which I'm sure you're aware). So yeah, "zero dark thirty" is 12:30am.
Colloquially however, the term is much more analogous to a saying like "the butt crack of dawn" or something similar.