F or T?

[Agnes]

So, after all what I've read about differences between F and T, I still don't know which one dominates me. I know all other letters for sure and I'm down to 2 types. I don't wanna discuss that 2 types but rather F and T or even Ti, Fi, Te, Fe, cause that would, in my opinion, maybe prevent more subjective answers. I'm sorry if there is a thread similar to this, but I would like to discuss my case individualy since I've read million other similar threads that did not help me. In the tests I always have like 50:50 results between that 2, sometimes it would be T, sometimes F. I guess I'll eventually, if necessary, reveal the 2 types that I might be if I still wouldn't be sure about which I am. Cause maybe that's not F in me, but N, or not T but J... But for now I would like to discuss F vs T.

ABOUT ME (I am also not sure how objective I am about myself):
- I can feel people's emotions and easily read them and manipulate
- I like to debate and I'm ok with conflicts
- I am enthusiastic and energetic
- If someone that I'm not close with dies I do not care, I don't feel much
- For my job I like professional environment, without touchy emotions
- I like to please others
- I make my decisions mostly based on what I personally think and feel
- I don't like social rules that are making me do something that I personally don't feel for really (e.g. Go to a funeral of a person I disliked and did not care for, just cause he is my relative, but I might do it to please my mom)
- the fact that someone is my family doesn't mean they are important to me; important are the ones I get along with
- I value everyone as a human being and dislike absolute selfishness and egoism
- Others see me warm, caring and passionate, but also maybe very intense, intimidating and bossy (if I show that part)
- In life threatening situations I have cool head and don't feel much
- Deeply I am very shy but noone would maybe say cause I'm very dominant and brave (but my shyness do not own me)
- I adore mathematics, but I'm also very creative
- I like scientific research and often conduct my own
- I higher value justice over mercy
- My greatest life goal is my personal value, but I also seek harmony and acceptance of others
- I extremely like efficiency, control and power and I am responsable ( low patience)
- I extremely like honesty, getting straight to the point and being real (cannot stand fakeness)
- It's more important to me to be actually for real happy then how other perceive it, but I can be sensitive on judgment of others
- I easily express my emotions naturally, but if I have a problem I prefer to analytically talk about it and find the solution
- generally I adore analysing and I search for the truth
- I believe in higher power but am not really religious
- I tend to be skeptical
- I have a dark humor
- I am tough minded and think A LOT, feel a lot too
- I don't like boredom, I seek excitement, but I do enjoy some OCD stuff that some can find very boring
- If someone attacks me in RL I will not back down, I'm ready to fight (or maybe on internet ignore it if I don't care and find it stupid)
- I can be moody, but emotions never prevented me to be professional no matter what
- I seem confident but I can be insecure too
- I can be cruel if necessary
- I know how I feel, but I want to rationalise everything, so I dont completely get myself in that way
- movies can emotionaly touch me, but e.g. I find horrors to be a comedy
- How I feel and what has a meaning to me is the most important to me
- I can put someone above me
- Being fair and righteous is important to me
I am also a female, so I don't know if my emotional side can therefore seem more dominant. I did find myself to be 'like a boy' more than many boys I've met due to my bravery.

So please tell me your opinion and preferably elaborate why you think I'm an F or T. If you have any questions feel free to ask! Thank you for answers!

 

[TheCheeseBurgerKing]

So, after all what I've read about differences between F and T, I still don't know which one dominates me. I know all other letters for sure and I'm down to 2 types. I don't wanna discuss that 2 types but rather F and T or even Ti, Fi, Te, Fe, cause that would, in my opinion, maybe prevent more subjective answers. I'm sorry if there is a thread similar to this, but I would like to discuss my case individualy since I've read million other similar threads that did not help me. In the tests I always have like 50:50 results between that 2, sometimes it would be T, sometimes F. I guess I'll eventually, if necessary, reveal the 2 types that I might be if I still wouldn't be sure about which I am. Cause maybe that's not F in me, but N, or not T but J... But for now I would like to discuss F vs T.

ABOUT ME (I am also not sure how objective I am about myself):
- I can feel people's emotions and easily read them and manipulate
- I like to debate and I'm ok with conflicts
- I am enthusiastic and energetic
- If someone that I'm not close with dies I do not care, I don't feel much
- For my job I like professional environment, without touchy emotions
- I like to please others
- I make my decisions mostly based on what I personally think and feel
- I don't like social rules that are making me do something that I personally don't feel for really (e.g. Go to a funeral of a person I disliked and did not care for, just cause he is my relative, but I might do it to please my mom)
- the fact that someone is my family doesn't mean they are important to me; important are the ones I get along with
- I value everyone as a human being and dislike absolute selfishness and egoism
- Others see me warm, caring and passionate, but also maybe very intense, intimidating and bossy (if I show that part)
- In life threatening situations I have cool head and don't feel much
- Deeply I am very shy but noone would maybe say cause I'm very dominant and brave (but my shyness do not own me)
- I adore mathematics, but I'm also very creative
- I like scientific research and often conduct my own
- I higher value justice over mercy
- My greatest life goal is my personal value, but I also seek harmony and acceptance of others
- I extremely like efficiency, control and power and I am responsable ( low patience)
- I extremely like honesty, getting straight to the point and being real (cannot stand fakeness)
- It's more important to me to be actually for real happy then how other perceive it, but I can be sensitive on judgment of others
- I easily express my emotions naturally, but if I have a problem I prefer to analytically talk about it and find the solution
- generally I adore analysing and I search for the truth
- I believe in higher power but am not really religious
- I tend to be skeptical
- I have a dark humor
- I am tough minded and think A LOT, feel a lot too
- I don't like boredom, I seek excitement, but I do enjoy some OCD stuff that some can find very boring
- If someone attacks me in RL I will not back down, I'm ready to fight (or maybe on internet ignore it if I don't care and find it stupid)
- I can be moody, but emotions never prevented me to be professional no matter what
- I seem confident but I can be insecure too
- I can be cruel if necessary
- I know how I feel, but I want to rationalise everything, so I dont completely get myself in that way
- movies can emotionaly touch me, but e.g. I find horrors to be a comedy
- How I feel and what has a meaning to me is the most important to me
- I can put someone above me
- Being fair and righteous is important to me
I am also a female, so I don't know if my emotional side can therefore seem more dominant. I did find myself to be 'like a boy' more than many boys I've met due to my bravery.

So please tell me your opinion and preferably elaborate why you think I'm an F or T. If you have any questions feel free to ask! Thank you for answers!

MBTI: Definitely ESFP
Enneagram: 8w9
Instinctual subtype: Sx/Sp

[MENTION=21508]Agnes[/MENTION]

I just did an edit and changed my answer. I'm learning more about Fi, basically it serves to get a person what they are most happy with. Fi "thinks" about what is gonna make the person happy. Ti "thinks" about what makes sense, or is the "smartest" choice.

 

[Agnes]

Thank you for your answer. So you basically think I'm Fi/Te. As for ESFPs, I can relate to them, but I am not one. I can say now that I am sure I'm extreme J, so there's no way. All I said about myself was basically just for F and T, at least what I thought that has to do with it. I tried not to tell anything about me that would involve S/N, E/I and P/J.

C'mon guys, is there noone else wiling to give me some opinions?

 

[TheCheeseBurgerKing]

Thank you for your answer. So you basically think I'm Fi/Te. As for ESFPs, I can relate to them, but I am not one. I can say now that I am sure I'm extreme J, so there's no way. All I said about myself was basically just for F and T, at least what I thought that has to do with it. I tried not to tell anything about me that would involve S/N, E/I and P/J.

C'mon guys, is there noone else wiling to give me some opinions?

No offense, but you obviously dont know much about type yet. Anyways, T.

- I extremely like efficiency, control and power and I am responsable ( low patience)
- I extremely like honesty, getting straight to the point and being real (cannot stand fakeness)

You're screaming ENTJ.

 

[Agnes]

Now you're on it. I'm either ENTJ or ENFJ. That much I know for sure. (I didn't wanna say that form the start but it seems to me that I have to now). So I don't know what did you meant that I don't know much about type yet? If you thought about this other personality definitions as Enneagram and Instinctual subtype, I don't know about tehm . I was only curious about MBTI.

If I'm an ENTJ I'm extremely confused since I have such a high Fe in my opinion.
btw I really appriciate your answers

 

[TheCheeseBurgerKing]

Now you're on it. I'm either ENTJ or ENFJ. That much I know for sure. So I don't know what did you meant that I don't know much about type yet?

If I'm an ENTJ I'm extremely confused since I have such a high Fe in my opinion.
I really appriciate your answers

No, you don't have Fe at all. You're just a girl. Look at the ENFJs in this forum. You're not like them.

 

[Agnes]

No, you don't have Fe at all. You're just a girl. Look at the ENFJs in this forum. You're not like them.

Well, if it is not problem for you to also explain a bit? I mean I do care for others and I can feel other people's emotions and I know how to make others feel good. But sometimes it does annoy me that I go out of my way to please others. I am also extremely emotional and enthusiastic. Like acting a bit crazy when with others.

IDK, I got an impression that ENTJs are so cold and care only about themselves and aren't really fun crazy enthusiastic as I am. ENFJ are more fun, but I am for sure not that altruistic.

 

[TheCheeseBurgerKing]

Well, if it is not problem for you to also explain a bit? I mean I do care for others and I can feel other people's emotions and I know how to make others feel good. But sometimes it does annoy me that I go out of my way to please others. I am also extremely emotional and enthusiastic. Like acting a bit crazy when with others.

IDK, I got an impression that ENTJs are so cold and care only about themselves and aren't really fun crazy enthusiastic as I am. ENFJ are more fun, but I am for sure not that altruistic.

You're taking the Fe, Te too literal. Every one can feel emotions, everyone has a lot of emotions all the time.

Find some ENFJs on here, you'll see how different they are.

 

[Agnes]

oki doki, sir