Nadir
Enigma
- Joined
- Dec 17, 2007
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- MBTI Type
- INxJ
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(Everyone is welcome to reply -- however I felt that this topic mostly pertains to NFs, so the Idyllic is my subsection of preference where the placement of this topic is concerned)
Here's a question I asked an INFJ friend on MSN recently:
"Is accurately predicting something the same thing as not being surprised when that something comes to pass?"
To which he replied: "Yes and no. There's conscious and subconscious prediction, with the latter category including the infamous line "I knew he was going to do that."
This view is something that I share.
Basically, there are the following two categories:
a. Conscious, active prediction, let's say... "prophecy":
"This is what he's going to do."
Leads to "being proven right" or the opposite in the case of being inaccurate.
In conscious control of the doer, more externally expressed than internally, "explosive". Can bring about motion.
b. Unconscious, passive prediction, "hunch".
"I knew he was going to do that," or "I'm not surprised that he did that."
Leads to non-surprise, perceived as affirmation. Or, again, possibly the opposite.
Not noticable by the doer (unconscious), more internally expressed than externally, "calmly builds up". Doesn't really induce motion.
In both cases, insight into the opposing side's perceived thought processes play a large role.
Anyway, my personal feeling is that I do the "unconscious" type of prediction more, though not exclusively so. I find that "conscious" prediction is notably shrouded in mist and as such it's not very prominent most of the time. It also seems that the two assist each other -- usage of one eventually helps the other become clearer in the mind's eye, and so the "doer" also gains confidence regarding the usage of both faculties.
If there's one thing common to both though, it's that they are slow to manifest!
I hope this post made sense. I'm truly not sure.
I am looking forward to reading your replies and learning about your perspectives.
Here's a question I asked an INFJ friend on MSN recently:
"Is accurately predicting something the same thing as not being surprised when that something comes to pass?"
To which he replied: "Yes and no. There's conscious and subconscious prediction, with the latter category including the infamous line "I knew he was going to do that."
This view is something that I share.
Basically, there are the following two categories:
a. Conscious, active prediction, let's say... "prophecy":
"This is what he's going to do."
Leads to "being proven right" or the opposite in the case of being inaccurate.
In conscious control of the doer, more externally expressed than internally, "explosive". Can bring about motion.
b. Unconscious, passive prediction, "hunch".
"I knew he was going to do that," or "I'm not surprised that he did that."
Leads to non-surprise, perceived as affirmation. Or, again, possibly the opposite.
Not noticable by the doer (unconscious), more internally expressed than externally, "calmly builds up". Doesn't really induce motion.
In both cases, insight into the opposing side's perceived thought processes play a large role.
Anyway, my personal feeling is that I do the "unconscious" type of prediction more, though not exclusively so. I find that "conscious" prediction is notably shrouded in mist and as such it's not very prominent most of the time. It also seems that the two assist each other -- usage of one eventually helps the other become clearer in the mind's eye, and so the "doer" also gains confidence regarding the usage of both faculties.
If there's one thing common to both though, it's that they are slow to manifest!
I hope this post made sense. I'm truly not sure.
I am looking forward to reading your replies and learning about your perspectives.