# Thread: The alternative/real function orders

1. ## The alternative/real function orders

As you probably already know I am quite skeptical about the entire function order thing. So I am opening a thread where people can post alternative function combinations for each type. If you think that some type has wrong cobination. I mean if you think that MBTI and reality are going separate ways in this thread was can discuss that. In MBTI every thing is so "symetrical" that it simply can't be correct. (in my opinion)

For people that don't know function order I will provde it for them .

OK, first four function.

For example
ENFP = Ne.Fi,Te,Si

But from what I saw
Ne,Fi,Ti,Se sounds more correct.

Even Ne,Fi,Fe,Ti could make sense.

I mean there is a huge number of possibilities when it comes to all types.
However I am aware of the fact that we are all indivduals.

Disscus.

2. Well it depends on what you mean by order. Everyone has different function STRENGTHS, but everyone of the same type will have the same function order when it comes to how the functions are used.

3. Originally Posted by BlackCat
Well it depends on what you mean by order. Everyone has different function STRENGTHS, but everyone of the same type will have the same function order when it comes to how the functions are used.
You have any eveidence to support this ?

4. A.O, do you mean by using the results you get from a function test?

Coz then I go Ne=Fi, Ni=Fe, and then the other 4

5. Originally Posted by Amargith
A.O, do you mean by using the results you get from a function test?

Coz then I go Ne=Fi, Ni=Fe, and then the other 4
I am only asking if someone else also thinks that types can be better described with some other function order.

6. Shadow functions (the four apart from your preferred ones) are not exercised directly.

Sometimes you may think you are seeing, say, Si from an ENFJ, but it's really just the ENFJ's Ni resembling it.

As for the order of the primary four, some people lack development of the secondary or tertiary, so for instance if you see someone who appears to be Ti-Si it's probably an INTP with underdeveloped secondary Ne.

Most of the weird combinations are just regular types with weird functional disorders that result in some sort of clear unbalance.

7. Originally Posted by simulatedworld
Shadow functions (the four apart from your preferred ones) are not exercised directly.

Sometimes you may think you are seeing, say, Si from an ENFJ, but it's really just the ENFJ's Ni resembling it.

As for the order of the primary four, some people lack development of the secondary or tertiary, so for instance if you see someone who appears to be Ti-Si it's probably an INTP with underdeveloped secondary Ne.

Most of the weird combinations are just regular types with weird functional disorders that result in some sort of clear unbalance.

Ok, but what is the point in taking function tests then?

8. I keep the functions in the same order, but I ignore the E/I aspect of the last two functions. For example an INTJ would be

Ni, Te, F, S

9. Seeing as how functional order would be based on what the opposite of your two preferred functions would be, I generally agree with them. Since the system is based on duals, and functions being the opposite of each other, it would make sense for it to be symmetric, no? Like hot and cold, though here, things are defined as extraverted and introverted, intuition and sensation, thinking and feeling.
As for evidence, I have none. I think it's a bit tough to apply objectivity to something so subjective as personality.

10. I think the subconcious can play a huge part in perception vs reality. So while someone may act a certain way they may do so unconciously. They will relate to there concious thought. I think that from the inside we see concious, but from the outside we see everything.

I think this can really screw things up though when analyzing how a person is with how they appear. It can also cause false intentions to be read. It doesnt mean your reasoning is not correct, but the "intention" you assigned the other person is wrong. It is where logic and reality colide. The fact that we can do something without fully understanding what we are doing.

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