INTP
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Yup. In this regard, socionics appears to be closer to Jung. I'm considered a judging type because my primary is the judging function of introverted thinking.
the idea of judging type is totally different from jung. jung uses the word rational/irrational when referring to J and P functions and lists types according to their dominant function, therefore INTP is introverted thinking type(as is ISTP) and is considered as rational type, because Ti is a rational function. jung does refer rational functions being functions which are used to make judgments about logic/value with, but the whole J type thing in MBTI is totally different as its referring to whether the person is making judgments about the external world. im by no means an expert on socionics, but from what i know it seems that their idea of J is more closer to that of MBTI J, not so much jungs rationality. what comes to other stuff from socionics, i think MBTI is closer to jung than socionics, tho people on the internets have created some pretty distorted version of MBTI, which isnt that close to jung.
I wonder if the auxiliary function is actually as important for determining personality as the four letter/three letter(socionics) codes seem to indicate. As I understand it, Jung placed a lot of importance on the inferior function, and said very little about the auxiliary and secondary. The inferior function recognizes things that are unconscious. It describes what your struggle is, what your internal conflicts are. The inferior functions will "throw off" your primary. Inferior functions make people complex instead of just tidy archetypes. They seem to play a large role in the personality.
aux is expressed in MBTI type code. the middle two letters are the dom/aux functions, I/E and J/P are just attitudes of those functions and also are traits on their own. also the MBTI letters are called preference pairs, as the N over S is just a preference, so is T over F and so on. i mean INTP has ESFJ inside, but its just not preferred.
what jung did place quite bit of importance is the concept of differentiation and individuation(which goes quite much further than just typology). there is actually really much to be understood about aux and tert(also typology in general) and how they function from jungs work, its just that jung didnt directly write about them much, but they follow the same general concept of how the mind works in jungian perspective. or if you read what little jung said about aux and tert, then read what he wrote about other stuff than typology, you will be able to connect many things to aux/tert aswell.
As for the tertiary, if the "loop theory" is correct, than loops reflect the natural preferences and tendencies of a person. The third function is supposed to be easier to use then second function, if less likely to be used well, according to the "loop theory". Thus, it will be more common for an INTP to use Si, for instance, than to use Ne. Ne often requires conscious effort, while Si is more automatic. It seems odd, then, that the four letter/three letter codes include a description of a primary function and an auxiliary function, instead of a tertiary and inferior function.
i dont think that tert is easier to use than aux. the whole loop thing is an abnormal state where the opposite attitude of introversion/extraversion gets repressed(I types repress E obviously).