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I don't think N types can't have such hobbies or that only Se types can do crochet/drawing. Typology isn't really about hobbies but about your way of thinking. You liking to play devil's advocate is far more relevant to that, for example.

You're right, of course.


You can't expect people to know your type right away from a few posts.

Of course not. And I've seen the Mistyped Members thread here so I know it's not uncommon at all. I might be gripping just a little though because it's the end of the semester and my procrastination this year is worse than it's ever been.


Glad this type seems to work for you then. Sure enjoy the reading and uhh, yeah the essays too :p

Out of curiosity, why do you hate doing research papers? I remember I hated the step of figuring out and designing the experiment but I was fine with executing the experiment and then writing it all down was fine too.

This paper is for music history, so it's not a "design an experiment, do experiment, write about results" paper, which would probably be better even though every year in elementary school I procrastinated so hard on science fair projects lolol.
This is supposed to be a ten-page paper on influences on Tchaikovsky's fourth symphony and how self expressionism manifested in it, in Chicago style. Last year I was in Advanced Analysis (a music theory class) and we spent a large chunk of time studying the first movement and how each element represented a certain part of his identity (Tchaikovsky was homosexual) - the conflict between F minor and E major in the beginning (f minor being who he was to be to be acceptable in society, E major being his forbidden homosexuality), the diminished seventh structure of the large scale tonal layout (associated with hell), the way the "fate" horn motive keeps interrupting to remind him that life isn't rosy (in opera at least, brass is associated with death), etc etc. I picked the topic for the paper based on my preexisting notes, trying to somehow reduce my workload. I just needed 8 credible sources to back up my notes and writing, create a detailed outline, and actually write the darnn paper.
My hurdle is that I don't particularly like reading that kind of material, especially primary source material because the language is so plodding and pedantic and if Music History 1 taught me only one thing, it's that I'm terrible at inferring things from the source text (I've gotten better). I also misplaced my notes from last year so now I can't directly reference them.
The other hurdle is, as mentioned before, procrastination. I do most of my work at the last minute. I almost said my best work, but it could've been a lot better had I put in more effort early on. That's the case with most of my classes, really. Problem is the 'last minute with still time to succeed' keeps getting pushed to earlier and earlier as the projects grow longer and longer, and by the time I realize that point has passed,... well lately it's turned into shutdown mode. Sometimes Pi rouses shadow Te and they come up with a quota of what I'm should accomplish each day in order to have a hope of finishing, but I have a terrible time adhering to such things when there's no immediate measure of accountability other than an index card taped to a page in my planner.

Anyway, I'm a bit sidetracked now. I wrote a haiku once about my feelings toward essays in freshman year. Here it is:

I don't like to write
Long essays on things they know.
I'd much rather sleep.

On that note, I'm going to exile myself to the library now.
 

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Idk if anyone still cares at this point, but I thought I'd come in and update everyone on my self-typing journey. I introduced a friend on another forum recently to typology and his own self-typing journey (he's ExFJ) that he has shared with me has led me to some resources that have further convinced me of my type.

Let's start with an announcement that I have settled on INTP as my MBTI type.
TiNe (INTP) — Type in Mind
I may have stated this before, but I think the reason I keep scoring ISTP in dichotomy-based personality tests could be due to shutting off Ne and engaging in a Ti-Si loop in order to, hopefully, keep from being distracted and to maybe actually complete the test in a decent amount of time. Similarly, I have noticed that most of my S-related answers on those tests are more closely related to Si than to Se. Now, I don't have an explanation for why I sometimes get INTJ, and ISTJ probably comes from "Oh, I like schedules today. Let's answer as if I like schedules." (J stereotyping.)

I'm still debating about my Socionics type. It's between SLI and LII (and on some days, probably the same days I relate to ISTJ and e1, I relate to ILI).

Still on the fence about enneagram other than I have accepted that my gut fix is 9w1.
I still don't know if my 5 is more 5w6 or 5w4 or just plain 5 balanced. Also questioning 7 because I have obsessions and as soon as some shiny new topic comes along I throw myself into it at the expense of the things I'm supposed to be doing that have suddenly become "boring". If 5, then 954 or 594. If 7, then 974.
I'm even questioning my heart fix because I don't relate well to any of the three heart fixes, but I guess I don't relate to 4 the least, if that makes sense.
Also questioning my instinctual variant, after some revelations about the nature of so, especially in the bottom of the stack. But I still don't understand sx at all, so I can't be confident that it's somehow stronger than so.

I still owe you all a video questionnaire. ;)
Or maybe I'll make it just audio because those are easier to edit and I can't have my face AND voice together going out all over the Interwebs. xD (But the non-editability was why I wanted to do video instead?)
 

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Hmm, I think INTP with undeveloped Ne could fit.
As for enneagram, I that you should actually have 9 as your core, It took me awhile to discover my 9ness but once I found it everything made so much more sense! It seems like you want outsider perspectives because your inner view is kinda muddled, that is a classic 9 problem.
As for 5 vs 7, why do you gather information?
 

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Yes thank you! I've done so much of the inner work analysis that I've lost my ability to look at myself properly from the outside. I look at the mirror but I'm still looking from inside myself which completely taints my vision. (Another reason I wanted to do a video questionnaire.)

As for 5 vs 7 (vs 6) it depends a lot on what source material I'm referencing. A few weeks ago I took another enneagram test thing and it put the 9 types into one-word descriptions, and the one that stood out to me, especially since that day I scored as high on it as 5, was 7 - "I must be entertained to survive." (5 was "I must be knowledgeable to survive.") Given those definitions, I relate to both, especially lately, but I don't know if I'm just confused about my type or if I'm deteriorating somehow or if I really am a 7. I generally relate more to most 5 descriptions than 7 descriptions anyway. But it still begs the question of why I research and enjoy the things I do.

For example: I don't travel all that often, and when I do, I don't go very far. What good is it for me to binge-Wikipedia everything about the Interstate Highway System and different types of overpasses and exchanges other than I find it inherently fascinating? Maybe I'm stereotyping, but that sounds like 7 to me.
At least I have a more perceivable motive for my autism information binges. (It's along the same vein as my typology obsession.)

I haven't researched the 974 tritype yet so I can't make a decision yet. (5?)
 

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Hmm, what you're saying sounds 5. You like to have this knowledge to counteract a lack of experience?

974 is the gentle spirit tritype(yeah the name kinda sucks), I'm a 947 at the moment. Some links that might help:

http://www.typologycentral.com/forums/enneagram/49651-tritype-gentle-spirit-479-497-974-947-749-794-a.html

479 This is the sort of sprite or fairy like tritype. There is a need to remain positive while still searching for meaning. The blindspot is that there is an attraction to magical thinking and missed opportunities to speak their truth so they find themselves glossing over negative feeling states in favor of something more comfortable or positive. When 4 is in charge there's a tendency to not see all the ways in which depression or sadness is evaded through this magical thinking process. the life mission is that this is the true healer archetype. They are often found doing bodywork or other healing practices as these are the 3 types that have a desire to transform. They like to inspire people toward happiness through expressing their creativity in a peaceful non-intrusive way. She said this is the most lyrical type, a sort of ethereal archetype (so is the 459 but it is a more withdrawn ethereal quality, almost wispy and ghost like) whereas the energy here is lighter and more impish or I think when it's a male energy you get a strong trickster archetype. Playful yet meaningful. Very idealistic (although not quite as idealistic as the 471) but still concerned with maintaining positivity and feelings of being up. I think Regina Spektor is an example of this archetype with 4 in charge. I'm actually put off by the idea of being in a "healing profession", though there's a strong likelihood that 7-4-9 is my tritype. I guess it's a reluctance to mix energies with society at large, or something of that nature. I wouldn't want to be in a profession where I constantly had to touch people. I'm not a cold person, I just wouldn't want a day filled with people-touching, if that makes sense. EDIT: Oh, also, I would have to say "reluctant to show anything negative" is not such a likely descriptor for me. Katherine said the 479 (749, 947) all took some kind of issue with the term "healer", even if they were in healing professions or were attracted to it. She was wondering what it was about that term that was off-putting, so what you've shared above is interesting (from a 7 perspective). She said this is the gentle soul tritype that has a healing presence on others whether or not they intend to so when she says healer this is what she means as opposed to being vocationally attracted to the healing arts (although this is very common with this tritype).

unknown said:
459 If you are 459 is described as being intuitive, knowledgeable, an accepting. You want to be original, wise and peaceful. Highly self aware and reflective, you are very shy, reserved and self conscious. You need regular quiet time to reflect on your thoughts and emotions. Easily flooded with emotion, it is difficult for you to voice your feelings and ideas to others. Your life mission is to delve deeply into the mysteries of life and share your insight with others. A true philosopher, you are happiest when you can write about your discoveries and discuss them with others. Making sense of your world is a never ending quest. You can be so focused on your inner world that you can become inhibited and appear to be indifferent to others. Insecure, you become moody and expect others to initiate and come toward you.
 

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I don't have time to read the entire description in the first two posts. And I haven't read the rest of the thread. But so far you are coming across as ISTP to me. And yes I've been doing this for a long, long time. Maybe that doesn't mean anything to you. But statements such as:
"I picked up assembling and disassembling my clarinet really quickly"
and
"I have an unfortunate tendency to state things meant to be factual that could be (and often are) interpreted as “Oh, she's bragging. What a braggart.” what no that's not what I'm doing at all oh no oh no hello hyperawareness ugh I'm such an idiot."
and
All the details.

Check out this link:
https://www.16personalities.com/istp-personality

As for your list of preferred specialists on typology:
"At least one of the below is true about the following people:
* They have expressed interest in helping me determine my type
* They are people whose input I am interested in hearing, based on previous interactions, different perspectives, perceived expertise, etc
[MENTION=26684]existence[/MENTION]
[MENTION=20829]Hard[/MENTION]
[MENTION=19719]Forever[/MENTION]"
@Vulcan

Your list is irrelevant because your cognitive style expects future results to be based on past results. You should work on that.
 

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I dunno. I just like interstates. :shrug: It's not an all-encompassing one (read: I've only spent one all-nighter on it)
Previous obsessive topics were
- drawing (favorite childhood hobby and most of my pretendy fun-time games involved artwork in some way)
- doctor-y stuff (this one is recurring)
- meteorology/weather (second grade, a few years before all the hurricanes came through the state)
- Discovery Health Channel (alllllll the shows, except for Medical Maverick, I didn't like the doctor on that one for some reason)
- roleplaying games/Internet forums
- MBTI (dichotomies only, basically all I did was type all my roleplay characters, see my other thread)
- more drawing (pencil drawing)
- music arrangement (arranging songs I like by ear on a program that I've had semi-illegally for six years now lol, but never finishing them)
- I had a brief crochet stint (as evidenced by the massive quantities of yarn in my college)
- digital drawing (basically portraits of my roleplay characters made on PaintNET)
- Asperger's Syndrome
- Interstate highway system (minor)
- typology (MBTI mostly, enneagram, socionics)

Probably going to just stick with 5.
I can accept 954.
 

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[MENTION=13589]Mal12345[/MENTION] , I just saw your post. Thank you for your input.
And it's things like this (and awareness of recent events) that have again been pushing me further into confusion about with which axis I seem to align more (NeSi or SeNi). The flip-flopping is driving me nuts (not your fault, nor is it really the fault of anyone who has posted on this thread).

I don't have time to read the entire description in the first two posts. And I haven't read the rest of the thread.
Understandable. I did write big giant walls of text. I should learn to summarize. Or redo the questionnaire with my answers limited to 100 words each. I used to write 100-word drabbles so it's not too much of a stretch.

But so far you are coming across as ISTP to me. [...] But statements such as:
"I picked up assembling and disassembling my clarinet really quickly"
and
"I have an unfortunate tendency to state things meant to be factual that could be (and often are) interpreted as “Oh, she's bragging. What a braggart.” what no that's not what I'm doing at all oh no oh no hello hyperawareness ugh I'm such an idiot."
and
All the details.
The first one is probably Se and definitely supports ISTP.
I always thought the second one (braggart) was Ti/Fe. You're going to have to point out the P functions working in that one.
And the third one seems Si to me, but I could be wrong.

If you're willing to read another monster post, here are my thoughts on my activities and Se.

And yes I've been doing this for a long, long time. Maybe that doesn't mean anything to you.

[...]

As for your list of preferred specialists on typology:

Your list is irrelevant because your cognitive style expects future results to be based on past results. You should work on that.

The list was based on the interactions I'd had with those people in the short time I'd been a member of this forum, none of which at the time had made educated hypotheses as to my type. I hadn't interacted with you much if at all at the time I made the list.

I also must confess that at the time I answered the questionnaire, I was still rather resistant to the idea of being an INTP even though I grudgingly saw bits of myself in INTP descriptions, and thus I think some of my answers are biased toward that point. Much as I hate it, I'm not infallible when it comes to objectivity and bias.

I also feel like for some reason you're insulting me (I'm not offended yet, I'm just observing), or maybe you feel insulted by my not including you in the list? Or you're annoyed by me, which I think is totally understandable. Or it could be the avatar. Anyway, I'm reading upset in the beginning of that last quote. If it's directed at me, please know that it isn't personal. If it's something else, then... we can pretend this paragraph doesn't exist or something? I dunno. :shrug:

Seen it. Nearly memorized it at one point. But thank you. I need to reread this.


One of these days I'm just going to copy-paste the points from those sites/links that I identify with the most and compile them into a huge list masterpost thing.
 

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[MENTION=13589]Mal12345[/MENTION] , I just saw your post. Thank you for your input.
And it's things like this (and awareness of recent events) that have again been pushing me further into confusion about with which axis I seem to align more (NeSi or SeNi). The flip-flopping is driving me nuts (not your fault, nor is it really the fault of anyone who has posted on this thread).


Understandable. I did write big giant walls of text. I should learn to summarize. Or redo the questionnaire with my answers limited to 100 words each. I used to write 100-word drabbles so it's not too much of a stretch.


The first one is probably Se and definitely supports ISTP.
I always thought the second one (braggart) was Ti/Fe. You're going to have to point out the P functions working in that one.
And the third one seems Si to me, but I could be wrong.

If you're willing to read another monster post, here are my thoughts on my activities and Se.



The list was based on the interactions I'd had with those people in the short time I'd been a member of this forum, none of which at the time had made educated hypotheses as to my type. I hadn't interacted with you much if at all at the time I made the list.

I also must confess that at the time I answered the questionnaire, I was still rather resistant to the idea of being an INTP even though I grudgingly saw bits of myself in INTP descriptions, and thus I think some of my answers are biased toward that point. Much as I hate it, I'm not infallible when it comes to objectivity and bias.

I also feel like for some reason you're insulting me (I'm not offended yet, I'm just observing), or maybe you feel insulted by my not including you in the list? Or you're annoyed by me, which I think is totally understandable. Or it could be the avatar. Anyway, I'm reading upset in the beginning of that last quote. If it's directed at me, please know that it isn't personal. If it's something else, then... we can pretend this paragraph doesn't exist or something? I dunno. :shrug:


Seen it. Nearly memorized it at one point. But thank you. I need to reread this.


One of these days I'm just going to copy-paste the points from those sites/links that I identify with the most and compile them into a huge list masterpost thing.

I'm not offended because you didn't tag me too. Because obviously we've never interacted before. But it's possible that I could have read the entire wall'o'post and then found out that you only wanted responses from certain people due to it being placed at the bottom of everything. As it is, I read just part of it, but I put a great deal of thought into the part I read. Then I scrolled to the bottom of the wall'o'post to find that. So I decided to post my findings with the caveat appended.

"I picked up assembling and disassembling my clarinet really quickly" - "The first one is probably Se and definitely supports ISTP." I don't know about Se in particular, but it definitely supports ISTP.

"I have an unfortunate tendency to state things meant to be factual that could be (and often are) interpreted as “Oh, she's bragging. What a braggart.” what no that's not what I'm doing at all oh no oh no hello hyperawareness ugh I'm such an idiot." - "I always thought the second one (braggart) was Ti/Fe. You're going to have to point out the P functions working in that one." I don't know what Ti/Fe means. Do you mean Ti-dom/Fe-inferior? Then you're right, it is a Ti-dominant trait. As for pointing out the P functions (or how the P functions), I'm specifically referring to the fact that P makes observations while J makes judgments. An observation can easily and commonly be misconstrued as a J statement by the other person. P statements are also overly honest with little if any employment of tact, or to put this another way, they lack good social judgment with Ti-dominants. If you have executive dysfunction disorder then that puts you strongly in the P category with regard to the external world. However, your internal judgments will be excellent, in contrast to the external, and your logical ability, as a Ti-dominant, will be finely tuned. Think ISTP Data from Star Trek: TNG, who has a hard time learning social graces and other human qualities, but can put the isolinear chips back into their correct slots faster than any human The Naked Now (episode) - Memory Alpha - Wikia - compare this to your ability to take the flute apart and put it back together faster than any other student.

I found this video clip of Data putting back the isolinear chips:
https://youtu.be/ad1i-FvVRiE?t=611

If you want, I can typologically dissect your original posts sentence by sentence, or even phrase by phrase.
 

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I also see this guy as having enormous ISTP skillz:
 

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I think you're a SLI for soiconics. You clearly have very very strong Si.
 

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Where is the Si so very very clear?

Where she talks about her preference for certain foods and stress in the large wall of text she linked you to. When I say Si in this context I'm talking about soiconics Si which has more to do with internal psychical states and aesthetics.
 

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Where she talks about her preference for certain foods and stress in the large wall of text she linked you to. When I say Si in this context I'm talking about soiconics Si which has more to do with internal psychical states and aesthetics.

Okay, I'll go searching the wall'o'posts for it...
 

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Where she talks about her preference for certain foods and stress in the large wall of text she linked you to. When I say Si in this context I'm talking about soiconics Si which has more to do with internal psychical states and aesthetics.

Back. What I've seen with the ISTJ type is a "What? Me worry?" attitude about things such as finals exams. Not stress.
 

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Thank you all for all the input. :)

I'm on a mobile device at the moment so I can't properly respond to what was on the previous page unless I go back and forth, and we're in the middle of what is apparently a tropical cyclone that I knew nothing about until about 4 hours ago. Until I can restore the power to my laptop (read: when the storms stop and the lightning is no longer threatening to fry everything I own), I'll respond to what I can see. :)

Re: SLI [MENTION=27495]Punderstorm[/MENTION]

SLI was the first result I'd ever gotten on the sociotype test, and I thought a lot of it sounded like me when I was reading through it (on the what Jeremy deems as largely inaccurate website). Even the Reinin dichotomies match my views more than the LII. My biggest concern is Socionics Ti vs Te, though there's probably some bias thrown in from their MBTI quasi-counterparts.
I've thought of ISTJ as an MBTI type with undeveloped Te but I concluded that wasn't it since any time I use (or seem to use) Te-Fi axis it's usually unhealthy usage. Probably not so relevant since SLI doesn't always equate to ISTJ, and again the MBTI-Socionics disconnect.


Re: [MENTION=13589]Mal12345[/MENTION]
Which monster post? o_o

The one Punderstorm was referring to is linked in my last post. And now here too. ;)
 

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"I've thought of ISTJ as an MBTI type with undeveloped Te"

Uh, you should let others do the thinking here, lol.

So Florida's in for a rough ride then?
 

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Thank you all for all the input. :)

I'm on a mobile device at the moment so I can't properly respond to what was on the previous page unless I go back and forth, and we're in the middle of what is apparently a tropical cyclone that I knew nothing about until about 4 hours ago. Until I can restore the power to my laptop (read: when the storms stop and the lightning is no longer threatening to fry everything I own), I'll respond to what I can see. :)

Re: SLI [MENTION=27495]Punderstorm[/MENTION]

SLI was the first result I'd ever gotten on the sociotype test, and I thought a lot of it sounded like me when I was reading through it (on the what Jeremy deems as largely inaccurate website). Even the Reinin dichotomies match my views more than the LII. My biggest concern is Socionics Ti vs Te, though there's probably some bias thrown in from their MBTI quasi-counterparts.
I've thought of ISTJ as an MBTI type with undeveloped Te but I concluded that wasn't it since any time I use (or seem to use) Te-Fi axis it's usually unhealthy usage. Probably not so relevant since SLI doesn't always equate to ISTJ, and again the MBTI-Socionics disconnect.


Re: [MENTION=13589]Mal12345[/MENTION]
Which monster post? o_o

The one Punderstorm was referring to is linked in my last post. And now here too. ;)

I called it a wall'o'posts on two occasion, not a monster post. I read the OP at that thread. Based on that reading, it's all coming together as ISTP for you.

But if you want to continue the debate...
 

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I shot down ISTJ a long time ago because of Te. :p
Ti > Te. That's what I am.

OffT: Some county north of us got pounded by this apparent tropical cyclone but we're just fine. Far better than the implications of all the doomsday prediction Facebook posts from the city talking about sandbags and flooding and tornadoes. That said, I don't know what the rest of the state looks like. Tropical storm Colin? Probably not worth getting out of bed for, but then again TS Fay dumped rain on us for 5 straight days and even the hilly lake towns had flooding. But then Colin looks to be pretty fast travelling, unlike Fay. lol

OnT: Hey, I'm just trying to let you know what's going on inside my head since, you know, that's what we're trying to diagnose here. :p
Wall-o-texts and monster posts.

A thought occurred to me a day or two ago involving my "type my characters" thread.... the way I wrote about them. Is it indicative of anything?
 

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I was looking for an old forum post on DragCave forums about cognitive functions but found this instead.

6 July 2014

Everything up there still holds true except my current media obsession is Steven Universe instead of Star Trek.



Found the other post, from 19 October 2013


Not sure how to feel about this one.
Both of the tests seem to no longer be accessible so I can't go back and answer them again and throw up a comparison of "then vs now".
 
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