I often times have difficulty telling the difference between a 7w8 whom has strong self pres, and a 7w6(sw8w7). So are all 7w8's huge risk takers despite variants? Say for instance if you have a 7w8 sx/sp with strong self pres, could this make that 7w8 much more cautious and not as much of a risk taker? I mean clearly that person most likely would not have that much anxiety, but it seems like that person may mistype as a 7w6 because they are actually a cautious 7w8 (which seems to be very hard to find). So can 7w8's be cautious?
7w8s are cautious when they deem necessary.
Think "situational management" - you manage what needs to be managed, when it needs managing, and how it needs to be managed.
There is no need to be "cautious all the time" - but in the same breath, to not be cautious when it is sensible to do so is stupid, and that is hardly a good path to take.
Does the thought of something going wrong even cross your mind, or do you just automatically assume things will go right
Things will ALWAYS go right, it's just a matter of which flavor of right they will go, and when it will happen.
The destination is decided, the path to get there is variable and traversed however it needs to happen, as the journey unfolds.
How on earth can you be comfortable in chaos?
Because change is the only constant, and to embrace it is be at peace with what most consider to be disarray, and to do so results in arriving at a natural state of advantage.
Cool heads prevail.
Well, I have an ESTP 7w8 friend who's Sx first and I have 7w8 in my tritype but I'm Sp first. The biggest difference between us is that while he'll go out and do it, I'll be sitting back and watching so I can be more calculated and do it better.
Kind of, but not really.
Opportunity knocks ONCE.
If you watch someone else reign in opportunity of any kind, at any time, and learn from it, then they have experienced conquest, and you have learned vicariously from it.
They did it, when you did not, and therefore they did THAT better.
If you find yourself in a position of similar opportunity at a later time, then maybe you have an advantage in capitalizing as good or better with the same or less effort, but you could not have done so without standing on the shoulders of giants...
Fortune favors the bold.
Victory cannot be achieved from the sidelines.
How can I differentiate a 7w6 from a 7w8 with strong self pres?
You can't. To wish as such is expecting over-generalization to become a norm, and that's not reality.
No idea, just sharing my thought process. You may need a sample size greater than 1.
+1,000, and LMAO!
But that might make things confusing if they aren't like you.
Oh my.
I don't really buy the sub wings thing. Tritype, mbti and instincts can explain any differences. I saw this interesting thing on the types
http://similarminds.com/desc.html. They put 7w8 between a head type and an instinct type. The main difference between 7w8 and 8w7 is that 7w8 is fun first then control/intimidation. 8w7 is control/intimidation first then fun.
Control is an illusion, and intimidation is a full scale implementation of feelings of inferiority.
Head games are for children.
So you guys are really no better than the Se doms in that regard?
No better than Se doms?
Which Se doms?
All Se doms?
Don't plunge down the rabbit hole so easily...
I don't know...ask [MENTION=6109]Halla74[/MENTION] ? I think he's sx-dom though...
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Yes, I am 7w8 sx/so...
They just seem...different. More present and grounded.
Yes, I am present, and I am grounded.
I live in the eternal here and now.
To do so requires being present and grounded, if that makes any sense whatsoever...
Maybe even more social (I'm not very social at all)?
Yep, I'm social. Very much so.
I understand people, and many of the social constructs they operate within.
Being able to reach common ground with people at that basic level of understanding allows you to interact with them, and negotiate with them, from the perspective of a peer and not an adversary.
This allows for much progress to be made in many circumstances without initiation of conflict.
I think they are much quicker to act and can have better instincts about certain things that I don't have a good grasp for. I can't think of any specific examples though.
Your comment above is accurate.
We are quick to act and have instincts that penetrate a vast array of phenomena at any given time.
Our reality is one of constantly observing, experimenting and interacting with our environment - whether the scenery of it, or the people within it.
We are in many ways a living catalyst.
The reactions we cause are simply a manifestation of our will being projected into our environment over time.
At least that's how it works for me.
-Halla74