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A Very Accurate Socionics Test.

hjgbujhghg

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Re: bolded. Actually, the very first paragraph of the OP says:




And it hasn't even been edited. So I'm being completely sincere when I say that I don't understand your and Hard's irritation since MisterNi is doing exactly what he said he would. The fact that it's the first paragraph makes it this situation even more...intriguing.

As for the rest, it takes two to tango. And it seems that Ni isn't the only one who hasn't left the dance floor.

I see no "I will push my opinion on you no matter what" there, I see "IF you're not able to socio type yourself, I will" .
 

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I see no "I will push my opinion on you no matter what" there, I see "IF you're not able to socio type yourself, I will" .

Do you have a problem with my typings or with the way I type? If you have complaints about me, then voice them.
 

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Do you have a problem with my typings or with the way I type? If you have complaints about me, then voice them.

You are obviously only willing to accept your own opinion and no one else's, your typings are close minded, pushy and your style is very arrogant. Also you hardly offer any evidence behind reasons for your typings. (But maybe I just don't understand it and there's a whole extreme system of thoughts behind it). Anyway typing others without explenation and being arrogant about it, is not the right way of doing it.
 

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I see no "I will push my opinion on you no matter what" there, I see "IF you're not able to socio type yourself, I will" .

At which point you could've simply smirked to yourself at his inaccurate insistence and waltzed off. It's just a silly typing thread after all and you clearly know yourselves better than an internet stranger does, yes?

But instead, you chose to tango and he chose to tango back. If you want the dance to end, you can easily move off the floor.

Or continue perpetuate your own agitation, I guess...
 

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Re: bolded. Actually, the very first paragraph of the OP says:

And it hasn't even been edited. So I'm being completely sincere when I say that I don't understand your and Hard's irritation since MisterNi is doing exactly what he said he would. The fact that it's the first paragraph makes it this situation even more...intriguing.

As for the rest, it takes two to tango. And it seems that Mr. Ni isn't the only one who hasn't left the dance floor.

There is a fair mistake here; there was the operative assumption that if the function order was written out, an interpretation would follow. I didn't bother including what I thought my results implied (in this case it would have implied LSE) since they were so off. There is a big, big difference between going "I think you're type might be this, let's chat" and "you are this and you're wrong".

Also notice, my initial response to his interpretation was free of angagonism, and while I was put off, I explained and planned to talk it out, instead he doubled down and did not take to heart what I said. Hence, I got pissed off, and rightfully so. Had he responded fairly, we wouldn't be where we are.
 

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At which point you could've simply smirked to yourself at his inaccurate insistence and waltzed off. It's just a silly typing thread after all and you clearly know yourselves better than an internet stranger does, yes?

But instead, you chose to tango and he chose to tango back. If you want the dance to end, you can easily move off the floor.

Or continue perpetuate your own agitation, I guess...

Ignoring things is not always the right choice.
 

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Ni=12
Se=7
Si=11
Te=12
Ti=9
Fe=8
Fi=8

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I don't relate to socionics, and know in socionics I'm not FiSe --- so it's no surprise really, I could be anything in socionics as far as I'm concerned (though it doesn't mean I'll relate to it ;). :shrug:
 

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Ok so [MENTION=4175]MisterNi[/MENTION] is pretty new in terms of posting here and there is some open confrontation so I guess I'll address it directly.

I have tried to develop some typing tests myself and know that the results have not always matched my expectations. It's much harder than it looks. Let's all recognize that. It's good to try and come up with these things.

[MENTION=4175]MisterNi[/MENTION], I applaud your attempt and also your amusing interpretations but my guess based on what I see here is that your questions and/or interpretation are likely flawed. I enjoy conflict and it's entertaining that you're so sure of yourself and to see people disagree with what you come up with. Maybe people should feel free to poke holes in your methodology so it would be helpful if you provide a bit further explanation on your conclusions. I also suggest you carefully read the rules to know what is acceptable and what is not so that you don't get yourself in trouble. You don't want to be perceived as trolling :).
 

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Te = 19

Fi and Se both = 16

Ni and Ne both = 14

Ti and Fe both = 10

Si = 9


Edit: section F was incredibly accurate in describing how I've perceived Ti.

[MENTION=4175]MisterNi[/MENTION] I don't mind if you give your interpretation.
 

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Ok so [MENTION=4175]MisterNi[/MENTION] is pretty new in terms of posting here and there is some open confrontation so I guess I'll address it directly.

I have tried to develop some typing tests myself and know that the results have not always matched my expectations. It's much harder than it looks. Let's all recognize that. It's good to try and come up with these things.

[MENTION=4175]MisterNi[/MENTION], I applaud your attempt and also your amusing interpretations but my guess based on what I see here is that your questions and/or interpretation are likely flawed. I enjoy conflict and it's entertaining that you're so sure of yourself and to see people disagree with what you come up with. Maybe people should feel free to poke holes in your methodology so it would be helpful if you provide a bit further explanation on your conclusions. I also suggest you carefully read the rules to know what is acceptable and what is not so that you don't get yourself in trouble. You don't want to be perceived as trolling :).

Yes, making an accurate easy to take test is extremely difficult; especially if people start demanding sliders (oh boy!).

Normally I don't allow people to poke holes into my insights but I guess for the sake of the Betas and Gammas who make up the bulk of this forum, is okay by me; as long as there are :Ne: valuers who are also there to plug those holes. :) Alright, I will go read the forum rules right now; although I will voice concerns if I object to any of them in the appropriate sub-forum though, of course.
 

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To "poke a hole," so to speak, I think it would help if you clarified why so many people who are taking your test are getting results telling them they they are proficient in functions they score low on. I scored a 5 on Ne, and yet you typed me as IEE, an Ne dominant. Sinclair scored lowest on Se and yet you gave him SLE. And so on.

It might help to explain a little about how your method for scoring works that makes the results turn out this way.
 

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Section A:
1. I am very interested in solving complex issues and unraveling a tangle of contradictions. [3]
2. Thanks to my imagination and seeing different solutions to the problem, I quickly find a way out of difficult, complicated situations and troubles that seem hopeless to others. [2]
3. I love everything unusual, mysterious and enigmatic. [1]
4. I always consider the problem from an unexpected side. [2]
5. Completely new and unusual insights occur to me often and I try to convince others to see my point of view. [3]
6. I love to argue, as I instantly notice the weaknesses in interlocutor's statements (or reports, speeches, proposals, projects, works of art or machines and equipment) and I can find good counterarguments. [2]
7. I quickly discover imperfections/flaws of almost any person. [2]
8. I hardly tolerate being subordinate or given orders. [2]
9. I perfect myself, my abilities and skills, in order to increase the chances of achieving my goals quickly. [3]
10. I think and compare things a lot, noticing contradictions and inconsistencies. [3]

Section B:
1. I am prone to create beautiful/harmonious images in my mind. [2]
2. I'm very curious, I try to imagine various scenarios and often intuitively anticipate the consequences of any actions or changes; I believe in fate. [1]
3. My ideal is a life in an atmosphere of art, in beautiful surroundings, comfort and well-being; I would like to live in the last century or in the future. [2]
4. I could not work in a hospital, because I cannot stand the hospital environment (odour, the appearance of patients etc.). [2]
5. I like anything unusual, beautiful, informative, food for though: I love music, art, theater, books. [2]
6. My opinion of myself matters more than opinions of other people. [3]
7. I treat people with irony, but I don't humiliate them. [3]
8. I am internally inconsistent and unpredictable in my decisions. [0]
9. I need to engage in art, as it is a means of expression. [1]
10. I act in order to surround myself with beautiful things (harmony, elegance, aesthetics, works of art).[1]

Section C:
1. I am an impulsive person looking for trouble.[0]
2. At any moment I am ready to immediately respond to any attack against me and I love to answer the opponent with a crushing blow. [0]
3. When I am humiliated, I am hurt and I feel a strong desire to take revenge. [0]
4. I prefer struggle and difficulties to stagnation and monotony: I mobilise quickly, take control of the situation. I can be strong and steadfast, the victory should be mine. [1]
5. I can confidently coordinate actions of others, as well as sense weak points of every situation. [2]
6. I'm in my element during fights, arguments, rivalry, competition or war. [0]
7. I make active efforts against all that is not consistent with my feelings and views. [0]
8. I would like to be the first and break all records. [1]
9. I'm a risk taker, but if I have to, I can bring myself to the most severe self-discipline. [0]
10. My mind works better when someone opposes or resists me. [0]

Section D:
1. I willingly do work which is connected with the need to convince people, to raise their spirits, instruct, assign tasks, manage, give commands. [0]
2. I become more active during the work program that increases respect or sympathy that my associates give me. [0]
3. If I have to chastise people for mistakes or wrongdoing, I do it in a "fatherly" way (without anger and humiliation.) [1]
4. I like to participate in various public meetings where I can make an impression on others. [1]
5. I am attracted to flashy and noisy spectacles, like battle scenes, races, sports (hockey, football etc.). [0]
6. I love to take care of others and I'm willing to find solutions to their material, business, and physical problems, but I prefer to take care of myself on my own, because I know what I need. [0]
7. I prefer more earthly pleasures, which include: contact with nature, food, work, love, rest. [1]
8. I love to please others, to be the centre of attention, to infect people with optimism. [0]
9. I easily make impact on others, I can manage them flexibly and efficiently. [0]
10. I act diplomatically to earn a good reputation of credibility and to maintain high position.[0]

Section E:
1. I try to be a competent person. I do everything at my own pace and high quality and don't like hacks. [3]
2. I treat people harshly, but fair. [2]
3. I have an interest in various technologies and constantly improve my work to make sure of its high quality. [3]
4. I am rational in spending money, and I always save for unforeseen occasions. [3]
5. I find it difficult to accept other people's ways of working. I know better how to make it easier, better and more profitable. [2]
6. I see no reason in enthusiasm for things that don't bring material benefit. [0]
7. I am confident that I can overcome difficulties in my work and get the best results. [2]
8. I often have a passion for the work that decreases fatigue and leaves me in a good mood. [3]
9. I don't change my lifestyle even if people don't agree with it. [3]
10. I get the most pleasure from doing useful and necessary things. [1]

Section F:
1. I'm a mature and principled person, guided by logic and common sense, not feelings and moods. [3]
2. I love order, systems and sequences. [3]
3. I'm believed to be secretive and reserved, because I'm wary and distrustful towards people. [3]
4. I'm good at work that requires classification and systematization. I'm able to work with figures, tables, graphs, I can clearly systematize accumulated information. [2]
5. I always know how to logically justify my conclusions and decisions. [3]
6. I love strict analysis. I can identify contradictions in arguments and reasoning of others. [3]
7. I like solving problems with the help of my knowledge, resulting in harmonious, consistent, orderly system. [3]
8. I love solving problems that require consistent, strictly logical approach. [3]
9. I can easily understand algebra. [2]
10. I am uncompromising in defending my views, intentions, plans and projects. [3]

Section G:
1. I'm a very emotional person, feelings mean so much to me that because of them I'm capable of great sacrifices. [0]
2. I'm an optimist and I hope for better future. [3]
3. My mood often changes and I can't help passing it on to others; I start and end arguments easily. [0]
4. I often perceive people and events in a romantic way. [2]
5. I love to share my experiences and make others respond to them. I can show how much I love and hate. [1]
6. I tend to see the world through pink-coloured glasses. [0]
7. I'm always interested in moods of others and I know how to influence people, make them experience certain emotions and feelings. [1]
8. I love daydreaming without any practical purpose. [2]
9. My mood is often characterised by swings between fear and hope. [0]
10. For the sake of peace of mind, an opportunity to find rest and dream, I'm willing to sacrifice a lot.[2]

Section H:
1. I prefer to make peace with people, avoid conflict and disputes. [2]
2. I easily/quickly adapt to new conditions and requirements. [2]
3. I prefer to be a homebody.[2]
4. I would like to be able to rest whenever I want.[3]
5. I like to provide special assistance to people, to be useful, selfless and to please others.[0]
6. I can feel for people who experience failures and troubles as if they were my own.[1]
7. I agree that I'm a malleable person: I often yield to pressure of people and circumstances.[0]
8. Calm and not very hard/tiresome work suits me best. [1]
9. I'm trying to iron out misunderstandings, to reconcile opponents. [3]
10. I prefer to meet in private. [2]

A = Ne = 23
B = Ni = 17
C = Se = 4
D = Si = 3
E = Te = 22
F = Ti = 28
G = Fe = 11
H = Fi = 16

Ti > Ne > Te > Ni > Fi > Fe > Se > Si.
 

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To "poke a hole," so to speak, I think it would help if you clarified why so many people who are taking your test are getting results telling them they they are proficient in functions they score low on. I scored a 5 on Ne, and yet you typed me as IEE, an Ne dominant. Sinclair scored lowest on Se and yet you gave him SLE. And so on.

It might help to explain a little about how your method for scoring works that makes the results turn out this way.

I'm curious too. If I had to guess, I'd say it's because the things we are answering super high in are things we *might* be more aspiring to/it's more conscious. Vs things we answer lower to are things we judge negatively or scoff at , or think we don't do, and in reality we may actually do it more / it's more subconscious. Conscious vs subconscious.

But to your point -- too, they could actually be things we *don't* do at all or really don't resonate with! Thus, we ARE answering accurately haha)
 

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I love how I put more 0s than everyone else.
 

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Te = 19

Fi and Se both = 16

Ni and Ne both = 14

Ti and Fe both = 10

Si = 9


Edit: section F was incredibly accurate in describing how I've perceived Ti.

[MENTION=4175]MisterNi[/MENTION] I don't mind if you give your interpretation.

You must be an office worker; it seems that you are an SLE :Ti: type and would be an ESTP in MBTI. Your dual IEI/INFp :Fe: type who usually test as INFx, INFJ, INFP, ISFP, ESFP, and in some cases ESFJ, ENFJ or even ENTJ. Yes, IEI really are a mess with MBTI. :mellow:
 

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You are obviously only willing to accept your own opinion and no one else's, your typings are close minded, pushy and your style is very arrogant. Also you hardly offer any evidence behind reasons for your typings. (But maybe I just don't understand it and there's a whole extreme system of thoughts behind it). Anyway typing others without explenation and being arrogant about it, is not the right way of doing it.

Well, I guess we have differences in opinion then; me being former military and very much a Government Asset and you being... well whatever you are. :)
 

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I already have. You seem to have ignored that.

You also seem to have ignored the solution to your dilemma I had offered in return.
 

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You must be an office worker; it seems that you are an SLE :Ti: type and would be an ESTP in MBTI. Your dual IEI/INFp :Fe: type who usually test as INFx, INFJ, INFP, ISFP, ESFP, and in some cases ESFJ, ENFJ or even ENTJ. Yes, IEI really are a mess with MBTI. :mellow:

May I ask how you've come to that interpretation?
 
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