^ I don't think any of us can make you understand. We could explain all day but not give you an answer that satisfies you because I think you want a logical answer and you want to be able to apply a logical construct to feeling and it can't really be done.
Plus, from the way you word things, you use inflamatory words and it makes it seem like you already have a set, negative idea in your mind. It is very hard for people who hold set, negaitive bias to hear and understand what others are trying to say that counters those ideas.
I know you can't. Long ago I have made peace with the fact that I will never understand emotions of others completely. (if that is even possible)
Which is because I don't relate to many traits that are typical for F.
Understanding a F from the outside actually not a problem for me. It is just that it is likely that I will disagree. But understanding them for within is another story.
Does this work the other way around as well ?
You are right I have a set but this is because I function that way.
But I can change my opinion if I find a better one.
Actually, you did say in the OP that you thought NT discussion of such topics would be more constructive. It's patently wrong. It's a bias you have that I wished to highlight to you.
Having said that, I have been wondering if the problem is a difficulty you have with
"theory of mind". That is, being able to understand and attribute motives, mental states, knowledge, beliefs of/to others. Without that ability, it is difficult to be able to understand the internal world of others if it differs from your own perspective.
Well, the OP was written as a provocation.
I think that INTPs are more likely to preserve their emotional integrity then INFPs. But when INTPs or other NTs go wrong then it is really a mess.
I think you are overlooking one fact in my post. Which is that "constructive" is very subjective term. I made that statement because there is less
of "oh my god" and "that is terrible" in posts on NT forum.
My postion was/is entirely subjective/relative.
Thanks for the link.
I will go through that text when I will have the time.
It was a figure of speech. It basically means, "I have become aware from your post that you are experiencing sadness, and I wish to express that I empathize with you."
That statement. The hidden meaning is, if a person loves you, they should wish to see you do something you enjoy and like (ahead of accomplishing something they think you should) since that will result in your happiness. Essentially, it's defining love as valuing the happiness of another person, and giving you a way to figure out whether they feel love for you or not.
Does that make sense?
1.Ok.
2.Yes it does and I am aware of the mechanism behind it. But this approach towards people always suprises me over and over agian.
Negative emotions (except anger) definitely seem better than not feeeeeeeeeeeling.
Would you care to explain this claim ?