Julius_Van_Der_Beak
Expert in a Dying Field
- Joined
- Jul 24, 2008
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- MBTI Type
- INTP
- Enneagram
- 5w6
- Instinctual Variant
- sp/so
Do you agree with Jung’s “Rational†versus “Irrational†dichotomy?
Yes. I think I'm more of a structured type than a spontaneous type, which is what the implication of me being an introverted type is in Jungian theory.
J and P are not situational. They speak to lifestyle. Based on Jung’s descriptions of the rational and irrational types, perhaps the best way to sum up the difference in their respective lifestyles would be “traditional†versus “non-traditional.†(Of course that tradition depends on cultural milieu.)
Where does Jung equate it with traditional? Are you using traditional when you mean structured? They aren't the same thing, in my mind. Structures can be unconventional.
Rational types are not, by definition, fun-loving or spontaneous. But that’s not to say they don’t have their moments, in reality, when they express their fun sides. P and J are designed to be rules, not to point to the exceptions and say “to hell with typology because it’s not an absolute.†A P personality is, as a rule, fun-loving and spontaneous; theoretically, they are so by definition.
See, I would say I'm more of a judging type than a perceiving type, but I'm not an extroverted thinker. I agree with the socionics description of me as an INTj, or LII.
Regarding "type as nature", what is it, if not nature? What do we actually mean when we say someone is a certain type, if we are not discussing their nature?