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What are the major differences? If you are one type on the Myers Briggs, does that mean you are still the same type on the Keirsey?
Keirsey is temperament and Myers-Briggs is cognitive types. Theoretically they're supposed to correlate directly even though they're different models, so, yes, you have to be the same type in both systems.
I personally think of Keirsey as being related to the elements systems: earth, air, water, fire:
SJ - Earth
NT - Air
NF - Water
SP - Fire
Looking at it this way, it would explain why Keirsey thinks J-P makes a bigger difference to S types, and T-F a bigger difference to N types. It would be my answer to a question in another thread (sorry, can't remember the name of the thread) that asks why it's SJ and SP and not ST and SF, or why it's NT and NF rather than NP and NJ.
Myers-Briggs doesn't fit so neatly with the four elements system. ISTP, even though an SP according to Keirsey, is really a dominant Introverted Thinker according to Myers-Briggs. So elementally, should that be Fire or Air? Neither, it seems; or both. To me, that's how I can tell that the two systems are different.
Sorry if my response is a bit confusing. I just noticed that it isn't a completely direct answer to your question.
they are all (keirsey (who does rule btw), Myers & Briggs, and Jung) essential to the system we have today.The types correlate. Also: Keirsey rules, and Myers & Briggs suck it.
Keirsey conceptualizes introversion and extroversion, as well as judging and perceiving slightly differently from MB's. It's not that far off, though, so there are lots of correlates. Also, I believe that temperaments are Keirsey's creation, not MBs'. Keirsey expanded his operations beyond the workforce to include relationships, which you can read about in his books Please Understand Me, Please Understand Me II, and Are You Fucking Deaf or Stupid or What? Why Can't You Understand Me?.
they are all (keirsey (who does rule btw), Myers & Briggs, and Jung) essential to the system we have today.
Keirsey is temperament and Myers-Briggs is cognitive types. Theoretically they're supposed to correlate directly even though they're different models, so, yes, you have to be the same type in both systems.
I personally think of Keirsey as being related to the elements systems: earth, air, water, fire:
SJ - Earth
NT - Air
NF - Water
SP - Fire
Looking at it this way, it would explain why Keirsey thinks J-P makes a bigger difference to S types, and T-F a bigger difference to N types. It would be my answer to a question in another thread (sorry, can't remember the name of the thread) that asks why it's SJ and SP and not ST and SF, or why it's NT and NF rather than NP and NJ.
Myers-Briggs doesn't fit so neatly with the four elements system. ISTP, even though an SP according to Keirsey, is really a dominant Introverted Thinker according to Myers-Briggs. So elementally, should that be Fire or Air? Neither, it seems; or both. To me, that's how I can tell that the two systems are different.
Sorry if my response is a bit confusing. I just noticed that it isn't a completely direct answer to your question.
mbti is a model for something we dont understand (cognitive processes and subprocesses). for what it is, it is flawless. for understanding the brain as a whole...lol...well thats a different story.
if you took a function test i can tell you now its wrong about the Si. plus the tests in general are...for a lack of better words...pretty crappy. i wouldn't say horrible, but unless you take keirseys they are just..ehh. did the INFJ profile seem to jump out at you?
thats what i think it is. my mom is an INFJ and she is everything that you just described. also the functions dont work like that (Ni, Fe, Ti, Si) now i would immediately say that you are creating a synthetic version of Si by using Se and Ti together. also, if you think about it, your Se is filtering through two other introverted functions. thats all just personal ideas that im thinking of so take it very lightly. now, if you think that you are using Si (and though that isn't possible theory-wise lets assume that true) it would be shadow function and would be an unconscious cognitive process that wouldn't be immediately accessible or manifest itself directly.