Cypocalypse
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Are there any xNTPs here that was raised in a very J environment in such a way that NeTi couldn't possibly have developed early.
My mom is an ESFJ teacher, dad is an ISTJ Civil Engineer (hardly influential in my growing years because he's always abroad), and I was raised a Catholic (another J entity), studied in a stereotypical J school like anyone else.
If I think about it, there isn't any room here for NeTi to flourish. It made me think if I'm just INTP as a nurturing mechanism rather than a natural one.
I have a hunch. Quite a number of NTPs may have been raised as Js, believed that they're actually Js, until unexpected things in life happen--things don't go as planned.
It's only good to be J if things go as planned, otherwise it's better to be a P for improvisation.
I think...
STJs - believe that the established rules are the right ones.
NTJs - believe that they are better than their STJ counterparts because of their 'foresight'.
Some NTPs - got messed up by the system, decided to avoid the rat race their TJ brothers go into, started to look for their outside niche, consequently broadening up their Ne, now wanting to have a laid back and a more fun way of learning. Essentially laid back without sacrificing intellectual proficiency (NeTi). Eventually hoping that a more individualistic take on learning will forge eventual mastery of a certain field, with a minimized sense of an SJ obligation.
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Anyway, I'm 27. The first INTP I met was a genius of a college professor around 5 years ago. And I was able to understand MBTI just recently. Heck, I doubt if I'll ever have any idea of the p/j duality without it. Only after learning mbti did i appreciate how much of a genius my professor was. I even thought that he was needlessly arrogant that time.
My mom is an ESFJ teacher, dad is an ISTJ Civil Engineer (hardly influential in my growing years because he's always abroad), and I was raised a Catholic (another J entity), studied in a stereotypical J school like anyone else.
If I think about it, there isn't any room here for NeTi to flourish. It made me think if I'm just INTP as a nurturing mechanism rather than a natural one.
I have a hunch. Quite a number of NTPs may have been raised as Js, believed that they're actually Js, until unexpected things in life happen--things don't go as planned.
It's only good to be J if things go as planned, otherwise it's better to be a P for improvisation.
I think...
STJs - believe that the established rules are the right ones.
NTJs - believe that they are better than their STJ counterparts because of their 'foresight'.
Some NTPs - got messed up by the system, decided to avoid the rat race their TJ brothers go into, started to look for their outside niche, consequently broadening up their Ne, now wanting to have a laid back and a more fun way of learning. Essentially laid back without sacrificing intellectual proficiency (NeTi). Eventually hoping that a more individualistic take on learning will forge eventual mastery of a certain field, with a minimized sense of an SJ obligation.
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Anyway, I'm 27. The first INTP I met was a genius of a college professor around 5 years ago. And I was able to understand MBTI just recently. Heck, I doubt if I'll ever have any idea of the p/j duality without it. Only after learning mbti did i appreciate how much of a genius my professor was. I even thought that he was needlessly arrogant that time.