Btw, I often find the T/F dichotomy the hardest tot figure out. Does anyone know if there's a thread on that one?
Btw, I often find the T/F dichotomy the hardest tot figure out. Does anyone know if there's a thread on that one?
The idea is that S relay on what is known to work, experiences, even theories. Surely will listen to it if not under pressure. But being exposed in the field at the moment. You will see sensors being way more reluctant to test out a new idea, just to do it. If the old works fine. Especially if the new idea is a bad one. Ns probably will do it just for fun, and the variation, even if the work will come to a total stop. Remember, we are talking about tendencies/preferences. Not absolutes.Sorry, disagree there .. I would like to think a balanced sensor will openly listen to any ideas, toy with it and see if it can be molded to their own style of thinking. If your idea stands weight even after i have criticized it and you have shown it is still valid, then i will most definitely take more heed to it.
F types have great difficulty dumping relationships... more emotionally sensitive (not in a freak out way - but sensitive towards other people feelings). T types can be emotional, sometimes very so, but they don't make decisions emotionally, they will make difficult choices....
A fair few F type managers I know can't fire people... (on one occasion an otherwise good business man limits his business success because the overall quality of outcome is inconsistent)...
F types often use feeling based language..... like asking how do you feel about that - rather than what do you think.... they personalize.
T types usually have to learn to be personable around their business... so they send factual emails without they "Hi you did you have a good weekend" will read, please can you forward me.... they have to work at social niceties.
Some of this sounds like Fe more so than Fi. I had to learn social niceties also. My emails/phone calls to clients tend to dive right to the point & people found it rude .
I'd say that we are who we are. Throwing grid lines over perception just confuses insight. No one needs to know if a person is S/N. Isn't what they say/do far more important than trying to divine some non-existent abstraction?
You might as well dwell on what color their soul is...
That sucks. Don't think it goes the other way around. I mostly find Ns to be funny. Disadvantage for the Ns then.However, if a pair of people will be spending the rest of their lives together, an 'N' ought to be aware that he/she will be unable to ever connect on an intangible level with the other if their preference is 'S'. This is a very real, experience driven finding from my own life .
Excellent use of Si^
And this was proper use of Ne and Ti - FYI.
So Jung should clear this up nicely then? If so, I'm getting my butt into some research.
There is a difference between functions and function theory. Sosionics got it more right then mbti imo. But have not trashed the functions themselves. Flak Jacks theory on this board is also quiet good. Only he mixed up Ni, Ne and lots of stuff in application. But the idea is a nice step in the right direction.Weren't you just saying that functional theory doesn't add up?
btw, it's not Si if I don't have any direct experience with you personally. Since I'm generalizing across MBTI types, it's Ne because I'm looking for a pattern between one ISFP and another one without any direct evidence that this will apply to you.
Interesting .. I would of thought i am a hardcore S, although i am being told differently by someone i am rather close to. OK. I do think we (I) can get stuck in a particular mindset and become narrow minded but due to the people we interact with and our surroundings, we become more open minded over time.
I try to find meaning and symbolism in all that i do until my head hurts and i realise i have been spending far to much time thinking thus need to start doing.
I think we only become better in ourselves when we open up to other possibilities and actually learn from our mistakes in life.
There is a difference between functions and function theory. Sosionics got it more right then mbti imo. But have not trashed the functions themselves. Flak Jacks theory on this board is also quiet good. Only he mixed up Ni, Ne and lots of stuff in application. But the idea is a nice step in the right direction.
You did not use Ne. Failed to keep an open mind. And made conclusions based on past experiences and knowledge. Textbook Si imo. Not even a trace of Ne. Ne and Ti you would have have picked my idea apart objectively instead of subjectively as you did. Even if I'm isfp I appreciate sound objective analyses when discussing external stuff.
Yup, once you understand the two different forms of S/N/T/F and realize that E, P, I and J aren't actually functions but just attitudes for the functions, things will make way more sense.
So S/N/T/F are verbs, while E/I/P/J are adjectives?
F types have great difficulty dumping relationships... more emotionally sensitive (not in a freak out way - but sensitive towards other people feelings). T types can be emotional, sometimes very so, but they dont' make decisions emotionally, they will make difficult choices....
A fair few F type managers I know can't fire people... (on one occation an otherwise good business man limits his business sucess because the overall quality of outcome is inconsistant)...
F types often use feeling based language..... like asking how do you feel about that - rather than what do you think.... they personalise.
T types usualyl ahve to learn to be personable around their business... so they send factual emails without they "Hi you did you have a good weekend" will read, please cna you forward me.... they ahve to work at social nicesties.
Excellent use of Fi.This is nonsensical enough that I'm convinced you have no idea what you're talking about and am no longer interested in discussing this with you.
Excellent use of Fi.
So S/N/T/F are verbs, while E/I/P/J are adjectives?
I/E, J/P, T/F are often fairly apparent after you meet someone a few times
but I've known people for years I can't tell if they're N or S
being handy is one indicator, but not always apparent from typical office/party/playing sports activities
many Ns, like me, don't walk around discussing theories, and some people who seem like Ss do, so that doesn't really seem to work
not enough evidence in daily life for me, how do you tell?