On this thread: not being able to ban male responses thus making it readable.
I posted a question out of interest, although if it was one of my posts that you've got the issue with I'd be happy to delete it.
On this thread: not being able to ban male responses thus making it readable.
On this thread: not being able to ban male responses thus making it readable.
I don't mind that males answer - many of them here have input I'd like to hear. But the male response in this thread are from males that generally have a track record of shit opinions/replies on the subject and/or dissolving into arguments on power.
I posted a question out of interest, although if it was one of my posts that you've got the issue with I'd be happy to delete it.
Some people want a more egalitarian partnership, not a relationship with overt power dynamics.
No they don't. Some have been programmed to think they do, though. Also, it is very seldom overt except in conversations like this.
What is that? I've heard it said before but dismissed it as the latest ideological verbiage of a scene I want no part of, although given here's a chance to be more informed I'll ask what it means.
From this article. There are examples in the article.When a man “mansplains†something to a woman, he interrupts or speaks over her to explain something that she already knows — indeed, something in which she may already be an expert — on the assumption that he must know more than she does. In many cases, the explanation has to do specifically with things that are unique to women — their bodies, their experiences, their lives.
I don't mind that males answer - many of them here have input I'd like to hear. But the male response in this thread are from males that generally have a track record of shit opinions/replies on the subject and/or dissolving into arguments on power.
But the male response in this thread are from males that generally have a track record of shit opinions
I'm not sure if it applies to the people on this forum, but I hear a lot from average normal women how difficult it is dealing with the general lack of female assertiveness and all of the consequential passive aggression, slander, and reputation assassination that occurs as a consequence.
One of my girly girl friends regaled me with this amusing story about her two best friends, both women, who are feuding over a pair of jeans I believe. They both ran into each other somewhere unexpectedly, smiled and said something pleasant/formal, then 5 minutes later proceeded to blow up my friend's phone at the same time with rampant cat-like hissing over the other and the encounter. It's amazing how far vitriol snowballs when you don't have the balls to get it out directly when it's still just a minimal slight.
I don't care. I'm telling you that directly.
I'm not sure if it applies to the people on this forum, but I hear a lot from average normal women how difficult it is dealing with the general lack of female assertiveness and all of the consequential passive aggression, slander, and reputation assassination that occurs as a consequence.
One of my girly girl friends regaled me with this amusing story about her two best friends, both women, who are feuding over a pair of jeans I believe. They both ran into each other somewhere unexpectedly, smiled and said something pleasant/formal, then 5 minutes later proceeded to blow up my friend's phone at the same time with rampant cat-like hissing over the other and the encounter. It's amazing how far vitriol snowballs when you don't have the balls to get it out directly when it's still just a minimal slight.
If I can just be completely honest, it’s having to deal with sexism from OTHER women. Like can we be real for a second? Very rarely have I met a sexist man. Like a GENUINELY sexist man, who goes beyond being an angry little boy on the internet, but rather a physical adult. Usually, when I deal with sexism in real life (which to me, is the only place where it matters, as any bitch can sit behind a computer screen and be rude), it’s from another woman. Typically an older one, or a “Christian†young woman who has a stick up her ass.
I’m loud. I say exactly what I’m thinking. I curse and drink like a sailor, and I will kick you in the genitals if you piss me off. Can I be overbearing? Of course. But I find I actually earn the respect of most men and have many as close friends. With women, however, I only have two that are close friends, and the others are nothing but difficult to deal with. I’m constantly told by other women to not be so bossy. That I need to be more feminine. That “a lady shouldn’t [insert harmless activity here]â€.
So yeah. Hardest thing about being a woman? Dealing with sexism... From other women.
I've notice that when called out women will typically be directly passive aggressive as a next resort, typically by declaring some state of apathy or being "fine."I don't care. I'm telling you that directly.
Do I really need to point out that humans are not atoms?
Choosing your actions such that avoiding hurting someone else's feelings is the top priority can easily violate your own limits, presuming you know what those are.Not wanting to hurt someone's feelings is not respecting your own limits?
I notice this myself - an unfortunate by-product of the programming that teaches women that being direct and assertive is "not ladylike". Essentially this:I'm not sure if it applies to the people on this forum, but I hear a lot from average normal women how difficult it is dealing with the general lack of female assertiveness and all of the consequential passive aggression, slander, and reputation assassination that occurs as a consequence.
Men complain about women being "passive aggressive." but if you are direct they call you're bossy and shrill.
My sentiments as well (though I don't paint my nails, or enjoy dressing up too often).Personally, I got over that shit decades ago. I'm straight forward, I swear, I am a great leader/problem solver. I rarely express my emotions and am aggravated by those who do.
I also enjoy cooking, gardening and dressing up. I'll paint my nails and then destroy them playing in the mud. Many of my guy friends say that I am more manly than they are but I don't relish in it.
I find it confusing and stupid. Why must the things that I do belong to either gender? If others INSIST on classifying the things I do by gender, that is their hang-up and has no influence on me as an individual.
My, my: you are just full of generalizations today.I've notice that when called out women will typically be directly passive aggressive as a next resort, typically by declaring some state of apathy or being "fine."
*Rubs temples*
People do not frown upon this behavior because "Sexism" but because it's obnoxious. from ANYONE.
Cursing, yelling and being " One of the guys" ( you aren't) does not a strong woman make. I know, I used to say things when I was young. Guys do not respect you, they patronize you and it's easy because you will do any dumb thing they tell you is cool and " Not like other chicks." and you will yell and scream about it being feminism because they have fooled you into thinking that most "Badass" thing to do is to insist that "Chicks are dumb." and the only way to be a "good woman" is to completely deny your gender at all.
Personally, I got over that shit decades ago. I'm straight forward, I swear, I am a great leader/problem solver. I rarely express my emotions and am aggravated by those who do.
I also enjoy cooking, gardening and dressing up. I'll paint my nails and then destroy them playing in the mud. Many of my guy friends say that I am more manly than they are but I don't relish in it.
I find it confusing and stupid. Why must the things that I do belong to either gender? If others INSIST on classifying the things I do by gender, that is their hang-up and has no influence on me as an individual.
I'm not telling you to not be yourself. That would be quite hypocritical. I am saying that if you want to be loud and obnoxious, that's fine but OWN it. Don't blame your off-putting nature on sexism.
Do I really need to point out that humans are not atoms?
I notice this myself - an unfortunate by-product of the programming that teaches women that being direct and assertive is "not ladylike"..
Too much or none at all? I wonder which one would be worse....
Me too. Guess it was my loss for being born a male.I think I prefer the "too much" to "none".
Based solely on the most common complaint I hear from my female co-workers, the hardest part about being a woman would be receiving too much (unwanted) attention from men. It's so extreme that many women I've dated have told me that they're afraid to even go out for a walk alone at night.
Ironically, I know many guys who tend to complain about not receiving any attention at all from women.
Too much or none at all? I wonder which one would be worse....
Another thing that's hard about being a woman: Being boiled down to merely a receptacle in which new humans can form and an agent who ensures their survival. No importance beyond that. After 40, after your kids could survive on their own, you're worthless.
The idea that a woman just needs to be more responsible, accountable, and dominant in order to be valued for her character is false, both generally in my personal experience and backed by research. Just try being the one who outperforms most of the others in school, and who refuses to play a dumb bimbo who needs to be rescued in order to impress the boys. You'll not get very far in general. See this or this.
Interpersonal attraction may be shaped by (a) one’s psychological distance from a target (the subjective experience that a target is close to or far from the self) and (b) the perceived standing of a target on a trait relative to the self (as better or worse than the self). We propose that when evaluating a psychologically distant target, individuals may rely on abstract schemas (e.g., the desirability of a partner’s traits) and prefer targets who possess more (vs. less) desirable qualities than themselves.
Anecdote from an "ugly duckling" case. I spent the first 25 years of my life receiving no attention from the opposite sex... And then had a pretty drastic transformation and now receive a great deal of attention. It very much is a double-edged sword. I won't say that I hate it. It's awesome sometimes. It can be really uplifting and empowering. Most of the time I eat that shit up. I love it.
Sometimes it's super, super creepy. Like, "I'm going to need someone to walk me out to my car because I'm genuinely afraid that guy who said some weird shit 4 hours ago is still waiting out in the parking lot." Most people can sense when they're making you uncomfortable and dial it back, but a few of the more special specimens just don't seem to have that radar. Or they don't care.
I think I prefer the "too much" to "none". Positive experiences outweigh the bad. But maybe I just haven't had as much time for that kind of thing to 'get old'.