If Christians Were Being Lied To, Would We/They Know It?

[wool]

I suggest you read something other than the Bible, if I may.

I have read the Bible and I'm quiet familiar with it, and I have gone to church and Bible study, but I honestly find it's not for me. Christainity is not for me. I have no problem with people who call themsleves Christians, for the most part, but the Evangelical Christians seem to see the Bible as the only source of reliable information. I think this is narrow.

Let me ask you a question. Would you be willing to read my books, since I have read yours?

You clearly misinterpreted what you read based on your posts here.

 

[wool]

The Lord of the Rings : the Fellowship of the Ring.

Gandalf: A wizard is never late


your point being ?

The Lord of the Rings was not written by someone inspired by the Holy Spirit. It is fiction.

 

[Typh0n]

You clearly misinterpreted what you read based on your posts here.

I don't base what I wrote here on what I read in the Bible. I have other sources. Would you know more?

 

[wool]

I don't base what I wrote here on what I read in the Bible. I have other sources. Would you know more?

Spiritual things are discerned through the spirit.

 

[Typh0n]

Spiritual things are discerned through the spirit.

Well, that's a non-answer to my question.

 

[wool]

Well, that's a non-answer to my question.

It explains why you gained nothing from reading the Bible.

 

[Typh0n]

It explains why you gained nothing from reading the Bible.

What have you gained from reading the Bible?

And why don't you want to read anything else?

 

[wool]

What have you gained from reading the Bible?

And why don't you want to read anything else?

...?

The answers to both of these questions can be gleaned from my posts here.. one even on this page.

 

[Lord Lavender]

It's Satan's chief task to misrepresent God as one who delights in our destruction and suffering, like he himself does.

Really?. From what I see it is clear that God did all the evil acts mentioned and even showed up himself to claim the credit for them

 

[wool]

Really?. From what I see it is clear that God did all the evil acts mentioned and even showed up himself to claim the credit for them

It is impossible for God to do evil.

 

[Lord Lavender]

It is impossible for God to do evil.

Nah hes evil as fuck in the classical sense in that he is happy to kill and torture innocent people for sometimes being in the wrong place at the wrong time and in general acts like a dictior btu there are many theoires. Maybe the real god is a good guy and all the events in the Old Testiment was all from Satan posing as god. One theroy I do have is that the real God only existed for the very start and he died when the gold apple was ate. MAYBE THE GOLD APPLE WAS THE REAL GOD AND SATAN TRICKED THE MORTALS INTO EATING IT. It is a plausable theory on so many levels.

 

[wool]

Nah hes evil as fuck in the classical sense in that he is happy to kill and torture innocent people for sometimes being in the wrong place at the wrong time and in general acts like a dictior btu there are many theoires. Maybe the real god is a good guy and all the events in the Old Testiment was all from Satan posing as god. One theroy I do have is that the real God only existed for the very start and he died when the gold apple was ate. MAYBE THE GOLD APPLE WAS THE REAL GOD AND SATAN TRICKED THE MORTALS INTO EATING IT. It is a plausable theory on so many levels.

I won't read posts like this any longer. It's disheartening. Good luck to you.

 

[Lord Lavender]

I won't read posts like this any longer. It's disheartening. Good luck to you.

Awwwwwwwww give me a hug

 

[Coriolis]

Really?. From what I see it is clear that God did all the evil acts mentioned and even showed up himself to claim the credit for them

What is "good" and what is "evil"? If you define these terms with reference to deity as described in a specific writing, they become self-referential: good is what God does/wants, by definition. God therefore can only be good. Many if not most people take a broader view of good/evil, some even questioning the merit or utility of using such terminology.

People are welcome to their own beliefs and values. They even have a right to live their lives with spiritual blinders on; in fact, many do. They don't, however, have a right to force them on others, or to have unsupportable claims accepted at face value.

 

[Polaris]

It is impossible for God to do evil.

You don't believe God is omnipotent?

 

[Lord Lavender]

What is "good" and what is "evil"? If you define these terms with reference to deity as described in a specific writing, they become self-referential: good is what God does/wants, by definition. God therefore can only be good. Many if not most people take a broader view of good/evil, some even questioning the merit or utility of using such terminology.

People are welcome to their own beliefs and values. They even have a right to live their lives with spiritual blinders on; in fact, many do. They don't, however, have a right to force them on others, or to have unsupportable claims accepted at face value.

To me good is when your actions on the whole benefit people and make them happier or better off which I suppose then God could be seen as good under a certain light if his actions led to a better fate for the humans involved as some theorize that if he didn't do the ark purge for instance then the world would be far worse off due to the volume of evil. However I can make an argument that God is purposely holding back as an excuse to carry out his more morallily dubious acts as in theory he could just say mind wipe the evil people which while not that good is better than drowning them all.

Applying human morality to God he is a power hungry,vindictive and harsh dictator who has many similarities to dictatorial leaders like Stalin (Both God and Stalin are willing to punish or kill people that threaten them or disagree with them in some way)> However on a tangent what do you make of the theory that the real god was the apple in the garden of Eden and "God" in the Bible is just Satan posing as him and using the image of a Satan as a distraction and scapegoat. It would explain so many things.

 

[wool]

You don't believe God is omnipotent?

It is written: "Far be it from God to do wickedness, And from the Almighty to do wrong."

Job 34:10

God is indeed Omnipotent, it is just not His nature to do evil. He is wholly good and just.

 

[Polaris]

Okay, that's a bit different from saying God can't do evil.

 

[wool]

Okay, that's a bit different from saying God can't do evil.

That's inccorect, but if it makes you feel better, fine. I'm not going to argue this further with you.

 

[Polaris]

I'm not going to argue this further with you.

I wasn't aware that we were arguing.

Also, I'm a bit confused as to the purpose of this thread. The original post doesn't even match the title.