Will you chip your hand?

[SearchingforPeace]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/yes-we-scan

Very fascinating article on the future of digital currency and cashless living. It is quite long but well worth the read.

A couple quotes that stood out

If that doesn’t feel revolutionary or particularly futuristic, it’s because it’s not really meant to. But the future of mobile retail is assuredly dystopian. Just ask Andy O’Dell, who works for Clutch, a marketing company that helps with consumer loyalty programs and deals with these kinds of mobile purchasing apps. “Apple Pay and the Starbucks payment app have nothing to do with actual payments,” he told me. “The power of payments and the future of these programs is in the data they generate.”

Imagine this future: Every day you go to Starbucks before work because it’s right near your house. You use the app, and to ensure your reliable patronage, Starbucks coughs up a loyalty reward, giving you a free cup of coffee every 15 visits. Great deal, you say! O’Dell disagrees. According to him, Starbucks is just hurting its margins by giving you something you’d already be buying. The real trick, he argued, is changing your behavior. He offers a new scenario where this time, instead of a free coffee every 15 visits, you get a free danish — which you try and then realize it goes great with coffee. So you start buying a danish once a week, then maybe twice a week, until it starts to feel like it was your idea all along.

In that case, O’Dell said, Starbucks has "changed my behavior and captured more share of my wallet, and they've also given me more of what I want."

"That's terrifying," I told him.

"But that’s the brave new world, man," he shot back. "Moving payments from plastic swipes to digital taps is going to change how companies influence your behavior. That's what you're asking, right? Well, that's how we're doing it."

In this sense, the payments rush is, in no small part, a data rush. Creating a wallet that’s just a digital version of the one you keep in your pocket is not the endgame. But figuring out where you shop, when you shop, and exactly what products you have an affinity for, and then bundling all that information in digestible chunks to inform the marketers of the world? Being able to, as O’Dell puts it, “drive you to the outcome they want you to have like a rat in a maze by understanding, down to your personality, who you are”? That’s disruption worth investing in.

So, tech giants are trying to take control of more of our lives and manipulate us to spend more. Not surprising....

One January afternoon, I found myself trying to persuade a prodigiously bearded, flannel-shirt-wearing barista named Michael to allow me to pay him personally via Square Cash for a coffee, which he would then pay the register for. After a confession that this was all for a story from me and a pity laugh from him, Michael reached for his phone, but not before he locked eyes with me. “I’m only doing this because I want you to write about how much this sucks for us,” he said. He went on to talk about a popular coffee app called Cups, which allows customers to order and pay all inside the phone. “It’s like, now everyone who comes in is a robot — they just stare at their phone and wait to have their name called. Nobody even looks at us,” he said.

I think this aspect is huge. Killing the human interact destroys so much. It is dehumanizing to the employees....

Again, read the entire thing......

 

[Virtual ghost]

When you are right you are right.

 

[á´…eparted]

When it becomes common place I probably will. It has a lpt of convience and potential. I am all for this sort of technology. People aren't going to become inhuman.

I really don't care if people track me. I am a pretty candid person across the board .

 

[Poki]

I wont put anything in my body like that unless its a medical need.

On the other note of tracking...i am sorry, if you cant control yourself its your own damn fault. Your parents should have taught you better, if they didnt its bought time you learn.

Offer me what i want and need based on data gathered. Makes my life better and easier. I have adds across multiple websites that show me different firepits, grills, etc. Because that the latest things i searched for. Much better then showing me random stuff i could care less about. Am i gona run out and buy one, maybe if i see what i want, it fits my wallet, and i am ready. Its a welcome change to me. I still do like the random and as things improve random will get better as in a "if you like this, you might like this". Again, makes my life easier and better IMHO.

 

[ChocolateMoose123]

No thanks. I'll pass.

 

[prplchknz]

I was thinking this was like how you chip a potato and was like oh god no. like take pieces of your hand off like you would with marble to make a sculpture. and could not understand why anyone would do that. so i clicked the thread. Right now, nope but like most people i say no now eventually through marketing and peer pressure majority of the people including me will eventually be ok with it in the future.

 

[cascadeco]

Not unless it's forced on me and I have no choice.

I still don't have a smart phone, I'd like to keep it that way for a long while. I'll probably at some point have to get a smartphone though once they cease making normal phones.

Re starbucks type apps, tracking, all of that...hey, people obviously want it. I always inwardly smirk though when people get annoyed that they have to sign in again, if there's a tech issue, if it's taking forever for their app to load.... I'm thinking, oh yeah... this is saving you a LOT of time and effort. lol.

 

[prplchknz]

Not unless it's forced on me and I have no choice.

I still don't have a smart phone, I'd like to keep it that way for a long while. I'll probably at some point have to get a smartphone though once they cease making normal phones.

Re starbucks type apps, tracking, all of that...hey, people obviously want it. I always inwardly smirk though when people get annoyed that they have to sign in again, if there's a tech issue, if it's taking forever for their app to load.... I'm thinking, oh yeah... this is saving you a LOT of time and effort. lol.

I like the idea of they can't steal your wallet without chopping off your hand sure some criminals would probably try to do that, but even if they did the cashiere would (I hope) probably be all like WTF and call the cops. Because they'd be using a severed hand to pay.

 

[cascadeco]

I like the idea of they can't steal your wallet without chopping off your hand sure some criminals would probably try to do that, but even if they did the cashiere would (I hope) probably be all like WTF and call the cops. Because they'd be using a severed hand to pay.

True... and, in sci fi world, that sort of thing would evolve!

 

[Qlip]

When you are right you are right.

When who is right? Certainly not Einstein.

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I don't see any practical reason to be chipped. Keeping the 'Mark of the Beast' in my wallet seems handy enough.

 

[Beorn]

We stopped branding humans here over a 100 years ago.
I'm a conservative, but I'm not interested in regression.

 

[1487610420]

chips r bad mkay

 

[1487610420]

in other news
Oooooklahoma! Where the cops can stop and empty your bank cards – on just a hunch • The Register

 

[Forever]

in other news
Oooooklahoma! Where the cops can stop and empty your bank cards – on just a hunch • The Register

That's hella messed up.

 

[Cellmold]

"Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd."

Alexis de Tocqueville

 

[Bush]

I would definitely do it if I could hack the thing to remove privacy concerns, like folks do with Win10. Then again, I'm sure that the chip would have to phone home for most of I its features to work..but that's fine.

And I'm sure that's a pipe dream, and it's not as simple as just "oh, just hack the thing!" but one can hope. I mean, look at how we messed up Keurig 2.0.

Additionally.. we already see some data collected through good ol' credit cards, though obviously as much. See this:

https://support.authorize.net/authkb/index?page=content&id=A755

 

[Luke O]

Not until I trust it and I'm not sure I could. I don't wanna get hacked. Btw related on contactless cards (which I also don't trust): We reveal just how easy it is for a criminal to steal your contactless card details from inside your wallet - and how to stay safe - Mirror Online

 

[RedAmazoneFriendZone]

NO WAY. Fucking dangerous.


I'm still considered as a human being (well at least I view myself as so). Let's suppose now that I agree with that crazy operation, I get out from there and I'm just a wallet.
Some people in France are still chocked because they must pay 0,20 or 0,50 euros to go to the toilets (I am too but I'm a woman, so physiologically, it is hard to disobey).
I don't think most people are ready for that "experiment".
If people accept it, even if only a few, it is going to be a huge disaster for the next generation.

We would need extraterrestres to save us :whacko:

 

[chubber]

I guess I'll sign up for the neural lace. When it works, and doesn't require replacement, physical upgrades.

 

[Tellenbach]

This would be another reason to get married. Chip the S.O. and bring her along.