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Which philosopher do your beliefs most resemble?

Abendrot

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1200 pages??? no thanks. Wasn't planning on reading it anyway, I just recognized the title.

Oh those philosophers do? lol I've heard of Hobbes, but not the other guy. The bullet points seem right, though I don't understand the pleasure being morall good. I do think that most people do things because of pleasure/ self interest.

Epicureanism is essentially hedonistic in that it defines pleasure as the essence of what is morally good. However, they seem to be the opposite of hedonists on the surface, because they seek restrained and moderate pleasures. They want what is pleasurable over the long term, and have disdain for instant gratification. Yeah, I agree that most people chiefly seek what is pleasurable.
 

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My attempt at typing some of these (and other) philosophers:

Aristotle: xNTJ
Ayn Rand: INTJ
Baruch Spinoza: INFJ
Friedrich Nietzsche: INTJ
Georg W F Hegel: INTJ
Henri Bergson: INFJ
Thomas Hobbes: ISTJ
Immanuel Kant: INTP
Jean-Jacques Rousseau: INFP
John Locke: ISTJ
Marcus Aurelius: IxFJ
Plato: INFJ
Rene Descartes: INTP
 

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1. St. Augustine (100%)
2. Thomas Aquinas (87%)
3. John Stuart Mill (66%)
4. William of Ockham (64%)
5. Epicureans (61%)
6. Aristotle (59%)
7. Benedictus Spinoza (59%)
8. Plato (41%)
9. Cynics (35%)
10. Thomas Hobbes (34%)
11. Stoics (33%)
12. Jeremy Bentham (33%)
13. David Hume (32%)
14. William James (32%)
15. Jean-Paul Sartre (31%)
16. Immanuel Kant (30%)
17. Ayn Rand (22%)
18. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (20%)
19. Nel Noddings (18%)
20. Prescriptivism (18%)
21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (0%)
 

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There must be something to everyone getting 0% on Rousseau.
 
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I think Lloyd DeMause who wrote The History of Childhood reveals what we have repressed as individuals and what we have repressed as a society. And it speaks directly to the formation of personality - something we appear to be interested in, or are we?
 

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1. John Stuart Mill (100%)
2. Ayn Rand (92%)
3. Jean-Paul Sartre (92%)
4. Jeremy Bentham (85%)
5. Aristotle (78%)
6. Epicureans (76%)
7. Thomas Hobbes (75%)
8. Benedictus Spinoza (67%)
9. David Hume (65%)
10. Immanuel Kant (65%)
11. Thomas Aquinas (62%)
12. St. Augustine (60%)
13. Stoics (56%)
14. Nel Noddings (56%)
15. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (51%)
16. Cynics (45%)
17. Plato (43%)
18. William of Ockham (31%)
19. William James (26%)
20. Prescriptivism (23%)
21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (13%)
 

Mole

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Marshall McLuhan, Optimism, and Originality

I like Marshall McLuhan because he is optimistic and original, and almost every paragraph contains a new idea.

Interestingly, he is a catholic utopian in a long line of learned and illustrious catholic utopians, such as my father, but what sets him apart is his fertile originality.

And interestingly, Marshall McLuhan has been named as the patron saint of the internet by Wired Magazine.

Let Marshall McLuhan blow your mind by clicking on http://robynbacken.com/text/nw_research.pdf
 

yeghor

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I like Marshall McLuhan because he is optimistic and original, and almost every paragraph contains a new idea.

Interestingly, he is a catholic utopian in a long line of learned and illustrious catholic utopians, such as my father, but what sets him apart is his fertile originality.

And interestingly, Marshall McLuhan has been named as the patron saint of the internet by Wired Magazine.

Let Marshall McLuhan blow your mind by clicking on http://robynbacken.com/text/nw_research.pdf

Although the test in the original post does not seem to work anymore, it is good to know that Mole at some point was communicating in a non-cryptic normal fashion.

What made him to go for a cryptic and walled-off style I wonder? Bitterness?
 

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Your top result is: Jeremy Bentham

Your Complete Results:
1. Jeremy Bentham (100%)
2. Jean-Paul Sartre (96%)
3. Benedictus Spinoza (82%)
4. Epicureans (82%)
5. Thomas Aquinas (77%)
6. Immanuel Kant (76%)
7. John Stuart Mill (73%)
8. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (66%)
9. Aristotle (63%)
10. Stoics (61%)
11. Nel Noddings (57%)
12. St. Augustine (57%)
13. Prescriptivism (55%)
14. Thomas Hobbes (49%)
15. David Hume (44%)
16. Plato (38%)
17. William of Ockham (36%)
18. Cynics (33%)
19. William James (9%)
20. Ayn Rand (9%)
21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (0%)
 

yeghor

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Oh, sorry it seems I can access the test only thru VPN but the link in the original post still works:


1. Epicureans (100%)

2. John Stuart Mill (90%)

3. Jean-Paul Sartre (86%)

4. Thomas Aquinas (86%)

5. Immanuel Kant (84%)

6. Benedictus Spinoza (79%)

7. Jeremy Bentham (77%)

8. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (61%)

9. Aristotle (61%)

10. St. Augustine (51%)

11. Ayn Rand (49%)
 

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1. Epicureans (100%)
2. Jean-Paul Sartre (97%)
3. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (94%)
4. Stoics (91%)
5. David Hume (84%)
6. Cynics (76%)
7. Thomas Hobbes (75%)
8. Immanuel Kant (74%)
9. Thomas Aquinas (74%)
10. John Stuart Mill (72%)
 

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Your Complete Results:
1. Thomas Aquinas (100%)
2. Cynics (73%)
3. Aristotle (72%)
4. Benedictus Spinoza (70%)
5. Stoics (68%)
6. Epicureans (67%)
7. Jeremy Bentham (60%)
8. Jean-Paul Sartre (56%)
9. St. Augustine (55%)
10. Thomas Hobbes (52%)
11. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (50%)
12. Nel Noddings (48%)
13. William of Ockham (47%)
14. John Stuart Mill (46%)
15. Immanuel Kant (41%)
16. Ayn Rand (39%)
17. William James (38%)
18. Plato (36%)
19. David Hume (29%)
20. Prescriptivism (9%)
21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (0%)

Aquinas:

  • All life has a purpose
  • Meeting this purpose allows one to be happy.
  • Happiness is to be found in the love of God.
  • God's grace providing entrance into heaven creates the highest form of human happiness.
  • Short of heaven, a person can achieve a more limited form of happiness through a life of virtue and friendship.
  • Morality is not determined by the arbitrary will of God.
  • Morality is derived from human nature and the activities that are objectively suited to it.
  • The difference between right and wrong can be appreciated through the use of reason and reflection.
  • Religious reflection may supplement the use of reason and reflection to determine right from wrong.
  • Societies must enact laws to ensure the correct application of moral reasoning.
  • Human nature is good because God made it good.
 

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Lady Windermere: Don't spoil it by saying extravagant silly things to me. You think I am a Puritan, I suppose? Well, I have something of the Puritan in me. I was brought up like that. I am glad of it. My mother died when I was a mere child. I lived always with Lady Julia, my father's elder sister, you know. She was stern to me, but she taught me what the world is forgetting, the difference between what is right and what is wrong. SHE allowed for no compromise, _I_ allow for none...[Leaning back on the sofa] You look on me as being behind the age. -- Well, I am! I should be sorry to be on the same level as an age like this.

Lady Windermere's Fan, A Play About a Good Woman. (1892) -- Oscar Wilde.

Bold indicates agreement.

1. Immanuel Kant (1724-1804), 100%.
  • We can make a priori judgments; the negation of such judgments would a logical absurdity because a priori knowledge is known without sensory data.
  • We combine a priori and a posteriori knowledge.
  • We have freedom.
  • God is not essential for his moral argumentation.
  • The objective facts about human knowledge leads to morality.
  • We must act out of a sense of duty in order to be moral.
    [*]Moral action does not come out of following inclinations.
    [*]Moral standards must be followed without qualification.
    [*]We must always act so that the means of our actions could be a universal law.
    [*]We must always treat people as ends not means.

3. Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274), 96%.
  • All life has a purpose
  • Meeting this purpose allows one to be happy.
  • Happiness is to be found in the love of God.
  • God's grace providing entrance into heaven creates the highest form of human happiness.
  • Short of heaven, a person can achieve a more limited form of happiness through a life of virtue and friendship.
  • Morality is not determined by the arbitrary will of God.
  • Morality is derived from human nature and the activities that are objectively suited to it.
  • The difference between right and wrong can be appreciated through the use of reason and reflection.
  • Religious reflection may supplement the use of reason and reflection to determine right from wrong.
  • Societies must enact laws to ensure the correct application of moral reasoning.
  • Human nature is good because God made it good.

3. John Stuart Mill (1806-1873), 82%.
  • The utilitarian principle is correct when the quality of pleasures is accounted for
  • Liberty is the most important pleasure

4. Jeremy Bentham (1748-1832), 77%
  • Nature has placed humans under two states: pain and pleasure.
  • The words right and wrong are significant only when related to the utilitarian principle.
  • Pleasures are not distinguished by quality; pleasure has quantifiable value.

5. Platōn (427 B.C.E.-347 B.C.E.), 74%.
  • There is reason to act justly even if one can get away with acting unjustly.
  • There is a single, general, pure idea of goodness that all good things possess.
  • There is only one model of the just person.
  • Justice is a harmony of the soul: intellect, emotion, and desire.
  • The best activity is intellectual stimulation and the most important quality is a strong intellect.
  • The just person is pleased, not in a state of discord.
  • The conflict between one's own good and the good of the community is NOT irresolvable.

Here are my answers to the questions. Judge for yourself if they seem consistent with the results:

 

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1. Benedictus Spinoza (100%)

2. Thomas Aquinas (96%)

3. Stoics (82%)

4. Aristotle (76%)

5. Plato (65%)

6. Epicureans (65%)

7. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (56%)

8. St. Augustine (55%)

9. Jeremy Bentham (54%)

10. Jean-Paul Sartre (52%)

11. Immanuel Kant (49%)

12. Nel Noddings (47%)

13. John Stuart Mill (40%)

14. Prescriptivism (37%)

15. David Hume (37%)

16. Ayn Rand (35%)

17. Thomas Hobbes (34%)

18. Cynics (31%)

19. William of Ockham (20%)

20. William James (20%)

21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (0%)
 

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Retook, reread one question and realized I missed an option, and actually used the priority scale. This is what I got, and from my basic knowledge of philosophy, this seems more accurate.

Your Complete Results:
1. Aristotle (100%) More Info
2. Jeremy Bentham (95%) More Info
3. Thomas Aquinas (91%) More Info
4. John Stuart Mill (79%) More Info
5. Epicureans (72%) More Info
6. William of Ockham (71%) More Info
7. St. Augustine (65%) More Info
8. Stoics (55%) More Info
9. Plato (50%) More Info
10. David Hume (48%) More Info
11. Immanuel Kant (47%) More Info
12. Benedictus Spinoza (46%) More Info
13. Nel Noddings (46%) More Info
14. Ayn Rand (44%) More Info
15. Cynics (41%) More Info
16. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (34%) More Info
17. Prescriptivism (33%) More Info
18. Thomas Hobbes (32%) More Info
19. Jean-Paul Sartre (29%) More Info
20. William James (28%) More Info
21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (0%)

Four years later:

1. Thomas Aquinas (100%)

2. John Stuart Mill (84%)

3. Jeremy Bentham (73%)

4. Epicureans (71%)

5. Aristotle (65%)

6. St. Augustine (58%)

7. Plato (50%)

8. Nel Noddings (48%)

9. Cynics (48%)

10. David Hume (45%)

11. Benedictus Spinoza (42%)

12. Immanuel Kant (41%)

13. Jean-Paul Sartre (37%)

14. Thomas Hobbes (33%)

15. Stoics (32%)

16. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche (28%)

17. Prescriptivism (19%)

18. William James (19%)

19. Ayn Rand (19%)

20. William of Ockham (11%)

21. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (0%)


I wonder why Aristotle fell so far down on my list.
 
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