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What are some credible medical journals I can find regarding chiropractic care?

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To whom it may concern,

I have gone through a recent trama which has given me trouble with my back. I am intending to perform some research on chiropractic care so I can better understand its success rate and the process itself. Could somebody please direct me to some scholarly literature regarding this topic?

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Why don't you ask your vet doctor instead of the forum?
 

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Why don't you ask your vet doctor instead of the forum?

I am unsure if chiropractic care or something more mainline would help. I am looking for some scholarly articles on the efficiency of different treatments for similar cases so this goes away as quick as possible. I have several options on the table if I scrape all of my savings together, but I need to know the best one according to evidence.

Vet...I would normally laugh at that.

In all seriousness, though, I know from biology that only dogs have backs as straight as the X-ray I saw. I wanted a splash of half-serious humor to lighten things up around this definitely serious topic.

WHERE IS THE LITERATURE ON THIS?
 

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I am unsure if chiropractic care or something more mainline would help. I am looking for some scholarly articles on the efficiency of different treatments for similar cases so this goes away as quick as possible. I have several options on the table if I scrape all of my savings together, but I need to know the best one according to evidence.

Vet...I would normally laugh at that.

In all seriousness, though, I know from biology that only dogs have backs as straight as the X-ray I saw. I wanted a splash of half-serious humor to lighten things up around this definitely serious topic.

Yes you should see a chiropractor. This is standard knowledge.
 

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Yes you should see a chiropractor. This is standard knowledge.
Yes, but I wanted to know this was the best possible option and I couldn't find any reputable peer reviewed journals on the topic. Regular websites don't cut it for stuff like this.
 

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Yes, but I wanted to know this was the best possible option and I couldn't find any reputable peer reviewed journals on the topic. Regular websites don't cut it for stuff like this.

It's called a doctors office.

Make an appointment.
 

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This looked interesting but I have no idea if it works:

Prolotherapy and Chronic Back Pain

A theory behind prolotherapy is that back pain is related to activation of pain receptors in tendon or ligament tissues, which are sensitive to stretching, pressure, etc. It is thought that the cause of back pain is from ligamentous laxity.

There currently are few studies that show the effectiveness of the prolotherapy procedure for allieviating back pain. Patients considering prolotherapy for back pain should ask their physician if he or she is trained and experienced in the procedure.
 

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Yes, but I wanted to know this was the best possible option and I couldn't find any reputable peer reviewed journals on the topic. Regular websites don't cut it for stuff like this.

See a doctor before you see a chiropractor. They will direct you to treatment options.
 

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I was in a horrible accident as a passenger and have had trouble balancing on two legs. It's also hurt to be upright. Come to find out today, I don't just have whiplash, but the entire curvature of my spine from top to bottom has gone away. My spine is now shaped like the spine of a dog or a cow or some other purely 4-legged animal.

Should I do chiropractice or what should I do? I'd like to have a human spine again. My fox spine sucks dirt.

1. Huh? What do you mean that your spine is a different shape now? Everyone has multiple different curvatures in their spine. If you suddenly have some strange, new bend in your back you need to go to a fucking doctor now before you become paralysed. I suspect you're actually just talking about pain, not a new shape.

2. Do NOT go to a chiropractor!!! While they're good for chronic pain and when a doctor is unable to help you, they should NOT be your first line of defence. Go to a medical doctor, one with an actual degree from medical school.
 

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Not serious answer: unless you were born a werewolf or something like that, I think your spine is already human

Serious answer: talk to a doctor. Seriously.
 

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1. Huh? What do you mean that your spine is a different shape now? Everyone has multiple different curvatures in their spine. If you suddenly have some strange, new bend in your back you need to go to a fucking doctor now before you become paralysed. I suspect you're actually just talking about pain, not a new shape.

2. Do NOT go to a chiropractor!!! While they're good for chronic pain and when a doctor is unable to help you, they should NOT be your first line of defence. Go to a medical doctor, one with an actual degree from medical school.
I went and got an x-Ray and that is how I know the shape changed. It makes me look like freaking E.T when I walk.

Chiropractic care, surgery, and back braces are my 3 options.
 

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I went and got an x-Ray and that is how I know the shape changed. It makes me look like freaking E.T when I walk.

Chiropractic care, surgery, and back braces are my 3 options.


I'm assuming you did seek medical treatment immediately following the car accident?
 

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I'm assuming you did seek medical treatment immediately following the car accident?

Yes. That is how I got this info and the three options. I just want to make sure I go the right direction from here. 1/3 is still too much of a chance.
 

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Yes. That is how I got this info and the three options. I just want to make sure I go the right direction from here. 1/3 is still too much of a chance.

You can always contact and make an appointment with a different Orthopedist and obtain a second opinion. And if you still are not satisfied that you are being given the best and most advanced course of treatment, I would seek out a third opinion. I don't know where you live but University of Penn has an exceptional orthopedic care center.

Penn Orthopaedics | Penn Medicine
 

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I went and got an x-Ray and that is how I know the shape changed. It makes me look like freaking E.T when I walk.

How do you know that what you're seeing is abnormal? Do you have a comparison from prior to the accident? Did the doctor tell you it was abnormal?

Chiropractic care, surgery, and back braces are my 3 options.

Is this what the doctor told you or did you come up with these?

Yes. That is how I got this info and the three options. I just want to make sure I go the right direction from here. 1/3 is still too much of a chance.

There are so many unanswered questions here. Did the doctor give you these three options? What did he/she recommend? Did you ask for his/her opinion? Literally zero people on this forum are qualified to give you any sort of answer here. Hell, even if someone on this forum is an M.D. or D.O., there is literally no way they could recommend anything from your sole complaint of "my spine is misshapen." I have no idea why you think you'll get better advice here.

If you don't like what the doctor said, by all means get a second opinion...but from a MEDICAL DOCTOR, not random nobodies on an internet forum.
 

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How do you know that what you're seeing is abnormal? Do you have a comparison from prior to the accident? Did the doctor tell you it was abnormal?



Is this what the doctor told you or did you come up with these?



There are so many unanswered questions here. Did the doctor give you these three options? What did he/she recommend? Did you ask for his/her opinion? Literally zero people on this forum are qualified to give you any sort of answer here. Hell, even if someone on this forum is an M.D. or D.O., there is literally no way they could recommend anything from your sole complaint of "my spine is misshapen." I have no idea why you think you'll get better advice here.

If you don't like what the doctor said, by all means get a second opinion...but from a MEDICAL DOCTOR, not random nobodies on an internet forum.

Exactly. Which is why I was asking for a place to research the 3 options I was given. The only thing my primary doctor told me after reviewing x-Rays with me was, that of the 3 options given, chiropractic care would be the least invasive and least expensive option that could work. When I asked about his use of "could," he said it may not work. So, I went to a chiropractor, oddly enough I was able to get right in, and they did more x-Rays and confirmed that my back and neck have lost its curvature. They also added I had a mild birth defect (some spina bifida, usually harmless when seen in the degree I have it) which predisposed me to this happening, but it took the sudden trama to really make this happen to me.

I have heard of a chiropractic controversy, but I'll I've found on the Internet are non-scholarly websites debating its merits. I want to get a link to a database I can trust, where only qualified experts are able to post, and I want to know exactly the rates of success for the three options I was given.

But I've already had a DO and an MD confirm my spine is way misshapen. Plus, I've seen skeletons, and my back doesn't have those curves in it. Plus, I walk with a stumbling gait with my head held way out in front of my body, and I can't quite balance.

I was in the middle of trying to get healthier, and I had this monkey wrench thrown in. No more yoga, I guess.
 

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OOOF that sucks.

Before I weigh in, I just want to make sure: were you seen by a physician following your motor vehicle crash, to make sure you didn't have any fractures underlying your pain?

As for my opinion about chiropractic, I'm of course going to be a little biased (as a student physical therapist) but here's my take on it: chiropractic can give you short-term relief but then you may keep having to go back.

The small muscles around your spine do not get exercised or strengthened with chiropractic, which is often what you need following an injury or with back pain in general. Physical therapy works toward restoring those muscles to functioning the way they are meant to: contracting when they are supposed to, and relaxing when they are supposed to. When those muscles are nice and strong, they support your spine's natural curvature in all different positions and motions, but when you have an injury, those muscles sort of go into shock, and don't do their job properly, and moving can cause you to feel pain. That's why it's so important to get them working well again! The PT will teach you and assist you with exercises that start out very simple, usually lying down, so that you learn how it feels to use those little muscles and then over time will progress to things like bridging and hands and knees and then standing and moving quickly. They will probably also do some stretching and work with the muscles and spine with their hands to help relieve pain and tension.

Then, once you're back to moving without such extreme pain, the idea is that as long as you keep moving your back and exercising it in healthy ways, you hopefully don't need to go back to PT.

So in terms of long-term, physical therapy has a lot to offer that you may not get with chiropractic.

Chiropractor vs. Physical Therapy: Effective for the Back | LIVESTRONG.COM



edit: ah sorry, I just saw that I was tagged, and posted before reading through the whole thread. I'm actually super surprised that the physician did not mention PT as one of the options for you. It's also non-invasive and can have as good (or often better) long-term results compared to surgery, without all the complications and risks.

I would ask your physician about a good physical therapist that s/he recommends for back pain.

I also agree with what others have said about the spine curvatures not necessarily being a bad thing or the cause of your problems. Reduced spine curvature is associated with back pain, but not everyone with a "flat" spine necessarily has back pain. You may be able to get some of the curves back with PT, as your pain subsides (eg your body might be holding itself in that rigid position to "protect" itself from further pain), or you may reduce your pain and keep the straighter spine. But really it is the pain that is bothering you, right?
 

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Also the fact that you have difficulty with balance, and your walking is impacted, is another reason that PT could help, as they are highly trained specialists in movement.

As long as you are cleared of any injury to your spinal cord and the cranial nerves in your upper neck.

I'm not saying that you need to see a physical therapist, but I would recommend bringing this up as another option with your physician.
 

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WHERE IS THE LITERATURE ON THIS?

OMG go to a fucking ortho. WE don't have literature on anything, they do. If you have the same dx from two physicians, THEY should have refereed you to one already so stop this nonsense of asking a bunch of people on a forum......what to do what to dooooo??!!
 
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