TheEmeraldCanopy
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Could Donna be ENFJ? (Not really sure what ENFJs look like)
I think there might already be a thread for this.
The amount of effort...I love you.yes, there has been!
I remember this was the general consensus (which i still agree with)....
first:
IN CHARGE: ESTP ENTJ ENFJ ESTJ
GET THINGS GOING: ESFP ENTP ENFP ESFJ
CHART THE COURSE: ISTP INTJ INFJ ISTJ
BEHIND THE SCENES: ISFP INTP INFP ISFJ
anyways...
Eric: ISFP 100%
JD scrubs is NFP, Eric is SFP. Both have "strange" thoughts. JD's N is fantasy and 'trips' to exterior possibilities (Ne). Erics N is more related to his truer interpretation of the other characters (Ni). Eric is BEHIND THE SCENES (which leaves INTP, INFP, ISFP and ISFJ...ISFP fits the best because he is pragmatic over affiliative).
Donna: ESTP 100%
Donna is IN CHARGE rather than GET THINGS GOING. She is directing over informing and motive over structure. She is pragmatic over affiliative. This all points to ESTP over ENTP or any F.
Hyde: ISTP 100%
Hyde is CHART THE COURSE rather than GET THINGS GOING. He is a responder rather than initiator, and a director rather than an informer. He is also motive over structure. These all point to ISTP over ENTP. The final point is his tertiary Ni use for the cliche "the man! the corporations!" rantings.....
Kelso: ENFP 120%
Kelso is affiliative over pragmatic. His vices and creativity are in his ridiculous ideas and perceptions (often of himself). He is identical to a real life ENFP friend I have (tests ENFP and everything). If you think for a second his intelligence disqualifies him from being an N, then you have completely misinterpreted MBTI in a rather elitist fashion.
Jacky: ESTJ 120%
Jacky is IN CHARGE, rather than GET THINGS GOING. She is directing. SFJ Fe is not directing (NFJ Fe is directing). She is the opposite of Fez, and is rather attracted to him (to her own surprise).
Fez: ISFP 90% (N/S)
Fez is BEHIND THE SCENES, not GET THINGS GOING. Fez is the total opposite of Jacky. His creativity and vices are sensual. Jacky secretly loves fez (also makes sense).
Kitty: ISFJ 90% (E/I)
She is not GET THINGS GOING, but more passive aggressive and BEHIND THE SCENES
Red: ESTJ 97.25% (E/I)
The extroverted version of hank hill. He is IN CHARGE (ISTJ is chart the course). He is initiating and directing. He is structure over motive. He is affiliative over pragmatic in his pursuit to maintain group tradition and dynamics.
less sure:
Laurie: ESTP 75% (T/F)
Leo: ISFP 75% (E/I)
The %'s refer to confidence to the written type (with the most disputed in parenthesis).
Red: ESTJ 97.25% (E/I)
The extroverted version of hank hill. He is IN CHARGE (ISTJ is chart the course). He is initiating and directing. He is structure over motive. He is affiliative over pragmatic in his pursuit to maintain group tradition and dynamics.
Yes, quite epic.
Actually I think we're all mostly agreed on ENTP. Out of curiousity, do you take this as a compliment to your type?
yes, there has been!
I remember this was the general consensus (which i still agree with)....
first:
IN CHARGE: ESTP ENTJ ENFJ ESTJ
GET THINGS GOING: ESFP ENTP ENFP ESFJ
CHART THE COURSE: ISTP INTJ INFJ ISTJ
BEHIND THE SCENES: ISFP INTP INFP ISFJ
anyways...
Eric: ISFP 100%
JD scrubs is NFP, Eric is SFP. Both have "strange" thoughts. JD's N is fantasy and 'trips' to exterior possibilities (Ne). Erics N is more related to his truer interpretation of the other characters (Ni). Eric is BEHIND THE SCENES (which leaves INTP, INFP, ISFP and ISFJ...ISFP fits the best because he is pragmatic over affiliative).
Donna: ESTP 100%
Donna is IN CHARGE rather than GET THINGS GOING. She is directing over informing and motive over structure. She is pragmatic over affiliative. This all points to ESTP over ENTP or any F.
Hyde: ISTP 100%
Hyde is CHART THE COURSE rather than GET THINGS GOING. He is a responder rather than initiator, and a director rather than an informer. He is also motive over structure. These all point to ISTP over ENTP. The final point is his tertiary Ni use for the cliche "the man! the corporations!" rantings.....
Kelso: ENFP 120%
Kelso is affiliative over pragmatic. His vices and creativity are in his ridiculous ideas and perceptions (often of himself). He is identical to a real life ENFP friend I have (tests ENFP and everything). If you think for a second his intelligence disqualifies him from being an N, then you have completely misinterpreted MBTI in a rather elitist fashion.
Jacky: ESTJ 120%
Jacky is IN CHARGE, rather than GET THINGS GOING. She is directing. SFJ Fe is not directing (NFJ Fe is directing). She is the opposite of Fez, and is rather attracted to him (to her own surprise).
Fez: ISFP 90% (N/S)
Fez is BEHIND THE SCENES, not GET THINGS GOING. Fez is the total opposite of Jacky. His creativity and vices are sensual. Jacky secretly loves fez (also makes sense).
Kitty: ISFJ 90% (E/I)
She is not GET THINGS GOING, but more passive aggressive and BEHIND THE SCENES
Red: ESTJ 97.25% (E/I)
The extroverted version of hank hill. He is IN CHARGE (ISTJ is chart the course). He is initiating and directing. He is structure over motive. He is affiliative over pragmatic in his pursuit to maintain group tradition and dynamics.
less sure:
Laurie: ESTP 75% (T/F)
Leo: ISFP 75% (E/I)
The %'s refer to confidence to the written type (with the most disputed in parenthesis).
Jackie a T? Since when did she make decisions based on anything but her feelings? I get what you're saying with the interaction styles and the direction of her functions and all, but she's so romantic and...pink. Also, I tend to think of her as Hyde's true opposite, not Fez's. She was always pushing for mush from Hyde...with Fez, she finally got it (not to say I didn't think Hyde and Jackie were good for each other...I did).
The only reason I would have said S for Kelso instead of N is because he fit the SP profile in "Please Understand Me" much better than the NF temperment. He always seemed more about having fun than discovering himself and his unique place on the earth. However, I can still see ENFP for Kelso on the very basis of his spaced out ideas.
I believe Donna is a J
Donna as an ESTP? no way dude.
Being in charge of your family does not make you an ESTJ. My dad growing up was most definitely NOT an extrovert, very reserved, not people-oriented, most certainly an ISTJ, and he was very very good at being in charge at home.
BTW, JD on Scrubs is stereotypical male INFJ.
Marm.........
1. Being In-Charge of an activity, event, organization or family is not the same thing as what the In-Charge interaction style refers to.
2. You can be an ENFP CEO, but you will still be more likely to identify with the GET THINGS GOING interaction style of initiating and informing because thats just how ENFPs are (idea generation and getting people excited about something), even when they are in charge of a company.
3. The ESTJ is directing and initiating. The ISTJ is directing and responding. The ESTJ is IN CHARGE and the ISTJ is CHART THE COURSE. They can both be CEO's, heads of a family and president of the USA. However, they both wont identify with the IN CHARGE interaction style, because the ISTJ is RESPONDING, while the ESTJ is INITIATING.
Im not making a politically incorrect remark about ISTJs inability to be in charge of things, because, to be honest, sometimes there are "things" that are better "run" by CHART THE COURSE people (INFJ, ISTJ, ISTP, INTJ).
4. As you point out, your dad was not an extrovert and reserved. Red seems to be initiating.
Not to be argumentative, but is it possible for an ESFJ to have a weak Fe? Wouldn't she need to be an ISFJ with a weak Fe?
Stupid question: Why can't ESTJs be sensitive?
(Rhetorical question meaning I thought they could be, especially females).
Eric: INFP
Donna: INFJ, just a very social one
Hyde: ISTP or ENTP (can't imagine him being INTP or ESTP)
Kelso: ESFP
Jacky: ESFJ with weak Fe
Fez: ESFP (always talking about his needs, obsession with candy, that's more Se than Ne, his Fi is less dominant, so that's why I made him ES)
Kitty: ESFJ
Red: ISTJ