kyuuei
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Good point. I'd like to say they train without using the force, with vibroblades perhaps, but how do you simply "turn off" such an inherent part of their nature? Maybe they have a way, like someone here may train doing something blindfolded. I imagine the Jedi Order having such insight.
Right, but even when they aren't using the force, it is an integral part of their system. I don't use my hand when I sleep, but I would still feel distorted if it were suddenly missing. I think training in the new environment would be an essential part of the Jedi. They would either need to adapt and overcome a lack of the force, or learn to tap back into the force in a new galaxy.
Though in my experience with crossover battles, you always presume characters have access to their strongest features - people like using Master Chief from Halo, and it's usually implied he has access to MJOLNIR. Same with Kratos, it is just implied he has his chain blades. A Jedi without the force or a lightsaber, he's nothing more than a finely trained spec ops soldier.
Right. Putting them and Kirk on the same level and giving Kirk the advantage. I would assume a Jedi would be able to tap into the force, even if it was different in a new galaxy vs his home galaxy, but Kirk would have the advantage of knowledge for an immediate battle. A Jedi could potentially counter many of the technological weapons Kirk would have at his disposal, but the element of surprise and his general sense of tenacity when it comes to finding the weaknesses in his enemies would be Kirk's battle if it were immediate. With training and time, the Jedi would overpower Kirk. The Jedi won't know how the ships and teleportation work immediately.. but with training, sure.
If Kirk were going into their galaxy, being trained to have to deal with anything being thrown his way, I think that teleportation would still be his key ability in survival against a Jedi attacking him as it would still take the Jedi by surprise--most people just do not teleport in that galaxy. I think Kirk could rid a Jedi of his light saber, but the force itself would still make the Jedi the victor as Kirk has no real weapon against it. It is everywhere. (Now Spock, on the other hand, may be a victor if he could get his hands on the opponent and do that Vulcan pass-tfo trick.)
hmm, but once you have FTL in the world without any space-warping involved, meaning your ship is actually moving itself faster then light speed (not folding space or wormholes or any kind of shortcut), aren't you sort of break the law of energy conservation? you've used the whole energy of the universe to accelerate... and then again to stop.. so the universe is sort of like in debt of one universe's energy (presumably to another universe-loanshark).
Assuming he's even using his ship. I wouldn't even consider a ship to be a key article for this battle, since most of Kirk's battles are not fought with the ship itself. It is a means of transfer to his many adventures, and while being a Captain of it is who he is, the ship runs just fine with or without him. If the battle were taking place on a ship that'd just give Kirk that much longer of an advantage on the time-to-survival ratio of Kirk vs Jedi.. Kirk knows his ship better than anyone, and that gives him a very huge homeland advantage on an otherwise already advantageous position.