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The Cat

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"Don't worry, It's totally unsinkable." - Thomas Andrews jr. (7 February 1873 – 15 April 1912)
 

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The sink of the Titanic didn't lead to banning doing anything involving water.

 
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The Cat

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So, are you calling for a ban of water?
Nope. Sorry to disappoint. I'm afraid you'll have to keep searching for someone to fight you over a technology fad whether passing or not. I am passingly curious as to why you correlate any potentially perceivable skepticism or I suppose cynicism on anyone's part that they must be calling for as you say a ban on water? :shrug:
 

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Nope. Sorry to disappoint. I'm afraid you'll have to keep searching for someone to fight you over a technology fad whether passing or not. I am passingly curious as to why you correlate any potentially perceivable skepticism or I suppose cynicism on anyone's part that they must be calling for as you say a ban on water? :shrug:
I'm glad you have perspective .

Because a lot of people don't. I made a whole thread about the laws and general turn in sentiment.

Software, however, is not a passing fad. From it's inception, "AI" just meant the cutting-edge software. As a buzzword, it comes and goes.

I'm skeptical myself of a lot of it. But a lot of it has value.
 

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My biggest cause for skepticism comes from how this whole thing is gonna be managed. Pay to play seems the way its gonna end up, and that makes me pretty cynical. I've appreciated places who are using it in a way that lets users use it for free. I'm pretty sure it's made editing the minis in heroforge a lot more doable than it used to be. I dont mind artists using it to help get their content out. I'd like for it to be something that can be profitable for everyone, but I cant shake the idea that its just gonna be like any of the other cool tech out there, for the military and millionaires.

Tbh, I'm a little bummed. Honest question, what do you think is gonna end up happening? Once its all said and done either way in the next 5 years?
 

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My biggest cause for skepticism comes from how this whole thing is gonna be managed. Pay to play seems the way its gonna end up, and that makes me pretty cynical. I've appreciated places who are using it in a way that lets users use it for free. I'm pretty sure it's made editing the minis in heroforge a lot more doable than it used to be. I dont mind artists using it to help get their content out. I'd like for it to be something that can be profitable for everyone, but I cant shake the idea that its just gonna be like any of the other cool tech out there, for the military and millionaires.

Tbh, I'm a little bummed. Honest question, what do you think is gonna end up happening? Once its all said and done either way in the next 5 years?
The biggest thing to realize it's not just one thing.

Big Tech likes the pay-to-play nature. Little Tech does not.

People won't stop making software.

The question is, will those making it, including people making the training data, get a piece of the prosperity, and get credit for the productivity that it creates.

Fatalism is self-fulfilling.
 

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I've said before, what these LLMs do amounts to fancy compression.

So the data is everything, basically. Now that we know at least one major source clearly, we can scrutinize it fully and publicly.

You could state that what the human brain does is also fancy compression, but that link is much more speculative. You could maybe see the analogy in papers like this:

But, in the machine learning case, the argument seems iron clad. In the human brain case, the argument is currently a stretch.
 

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How Software Development is Changing Forever, and How You'll Need to Change With It


As many have said, English is the hottest new programming language. Many other natural languages will be as well.
 
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If this could be used to create documents derived from Word or Google Docs that appear the same regardless of their source, that could be a game changer. PDFs are unfortunately not so consistent, IIRC. It looks easy to use, too. It's also much more involved than I was expected, as it includes OCR and speech-to-text.

I think the really big thing could be audio files. What do you think of the potential to use this to get the speech off of the entire library of YouTube videos? That would generate a lot of data.
 

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If this could be used to create documents derived from Word or Google Docs that appear the same regardless of their source, that could be a game changer. PDFs are unfortunately not so consistent, IIRC. It looks easy to use, too. It's also much more involved than I was expected, as it includes OCR and speech-to-text.

I think the really big thing could be audio files. What do you think of the potential to use this to get the speech off of the entire library of YouTube videos? That would generate a lot of data.
YouTube often provides transcripts themselves. Gemini Flash can do a lot of transcribing for cheap. OpenAI Whisper is an inexpensive API also, and has an open source version.

For the more DYI things, you are responsible for looking at the rights of what you are transcribing.
 
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YouTube often provides transcripts themselves. Gemini Flash can do a lot of transcribing for cheap. OpenAI Whisper is an inexpensive API also, and has an open source version.

For the more DYI things, you are responsible for looking at the rights of what you are transcribing.
That's true. Is it done through software with YouTube? I imagine it would have to be given the sheer volume.
 
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