Members who embody each type

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I think there's certainly a point to be made here about it being a fun thread and I'd agree that it's going to happen due to the nature of typology forums, but at the same time wouldn't you say that by telling someone they are a different type it naturally opens the gate for a defensive response from people who do take it more seriously? Because by virtue of it being a typology forum there are always going to be people in both camps so I think it's probably more beneficial to understand where both sides are coming from.

No one is responsible for someone else having a defensive reaction to a suggested typing they’ve given. Especially when that typing is simply XwX with no further reasoning given that can be viewed as positive or negative. The poster provided numbers. That’s it.

 

[miss deceit]

No one is responsible for someone else having a defensive reaction to a suggested typing they’ve given. Especially when that typing is simply XwX with no further reasoning given that can be viewed as positive or negative. The poster provided numbers. That’s it.

Perhaps it may have had a better response had reasoning been given. No one is responsible for it sure, but that isn't what I said in the slightest.

 

[Population: 1]

Perhaps it may have had a better response had reasoning been given. No one is responsible for it sure, but that isn't what I said in the slightest.

Isn’t it? You’re suggesting the root of the problem is the foundation of one’s enneagram type can be found in the person’s childhood development. I doubt most people here are aware of other members childhoods so it hardly rests upon their shoulders to be mindful of such things. The person making the assessment isn’t responsible for the other members feelings or reactions.

 

[miss deceit]

Isn’t it? You’re suggesting the root of the problem is the foundation of one’s enneagram type can be found in the person’s childhood development. I doubt most people here are aware of other members childhoods so it hardly rests upon their shoulders to be mindful of such things. The person making the assessment isn’t responsible for the other members feelings or reactions.

I'm saying they should be more aware of the roots of enneagram typing, and what one is truly saying when they offer a typing. If you want to successfully co-exist with someone you should at least make an effort to be mindful of how others may feel as a result of what you say. If you don't care about how others feel because of what you say that's fine, but it's then hypocritical to whine about how they respond.

 

[Population: 1]

I'm saying they should be more aware of the roots of enneagram typing, and what one is truly saying when they offer a typing. If you want to successfully co-exist with someone you should at least make an effort to be mindful of how others may feel as a result of what you say. If you don't care about how others feel because of what you say that's fine, but it's then hypocritical to whine about how they respond.

The point is he didn’t state anything beyond a surface level observation. The response was disproportionate to the action.

It’s obvious that a continuation of this discussion will yield nothing of value.

 

[miss deceit]

The point is he didn’t state anything beyond a surface level observation. The response was disproportionate to the action.

It’s obvious that a continuation of this discussion will yield nothing of value.

Surface level observations are the problem round here though LOL

 

[Jaguar]

Coward.

Given this post, I'd give up on typing anyone if I were you:

Hey guys.

It took me about two years to decide on my true type, wich happened to be ENFP. I've been all over the map; INFP, ENTP, INTP, INFJ, INTJ and ENTJ, but finally landed on ENFP, my original test score. It was tricky, but it all made sense when I thought of myself as a somewhat atypical ENFP with a developed Te, wich makes me a bit more organized (and abrasive) than what both profiles and other "scholars" of the system describe us Percievers as, hence the confusion. Anyways, I've been lurking around for some time and you all seem like good folk, and I think I will enjoy my time here.

 

[Red Memories]

Surface level observations are the problem round here though LOL

I mean, the reality is we are on a forum with limited understanding besides what is offered to us from you. We are in fact, only capable of "surface level observations" based upon what surface you show to us. So I can't really see why this is even a complaint or unexpected.

 

[Red Memories]

I'm saying they should be more aware of the roots of enneagram typing, and what one is truly saying when they offer a typing. If you want to successfully co-exist with someone you should at least make an effort to be mindful of how others may feel as a result of what you say. If you don't care about how others feel because of what you say that's fine, but it's then hypocritical to whine about how they respond.

If you do not want people to offer typology opinions on you, you likely should not be on a typology forum.

 

[miss deceit]

If you do not want people to offer typology opinions on you, you likely should not be on a typology forum.

There's dedicated threads for people who want typology opinions though.

 

[Jaguar]

If you do not want people to offer typology opinions on you, you likely should not be on a typology forum.

It doesn't work like that.

 

[miss deceit]

I mean, the reality is we are on a forum with limited understanding besides what is offered to us from you. We are in fact, only capable of "surface level observations" based upon what surface you show to us. So I can't really see why this is even a complaint or unexpected.

You can always discuss other typology related things, doesn't always have to be typing individuals.

 

[Red Memories]

There's dedicated threads for people who want typology opinions though.

This is a typology forum. People discuss typology here. Plus from the older userbase especially it is common to share typings among each other or even form joke typings. If you do not want to be brought up typologically or have anyone challenge the way you perceive your type, your philosophy on type, etc. than you shouldn't join a forum where people discuss and debate typology. She has in the past posted in thread of "is this person accurately typed?" and etc which suggests she would normally be open to someone offering a typology opinion.

Any reaction besides "I disagree with your typing of me" that goes into namecalling and suggesting someone lacks intellect into the matter is out of line and ridiculous and there is absolutely no defense for it.

 

[Frosty]

Who wants to be on my list?

Like this and Ill include you. Dont like it and I wont. There we go

Or rep me. Or idk send a smoke signal that I can see from a window in my house. Or dont because that would be a little creepy.

 

[miss deceit]

This is a typology forum. People discuss typology here. Plus from the older userbase especially it is common to share typings among each other or even form joke typings. If you do not want to be brought up typologically or have anyone challenge the way you perceive your type, your philosophy on type, etc. than you shouldn't join a forum where people discuss and debate typology. She has in the past posted in thread of "is this person accurately typed?" and etc which suggests she would normally be open to someone offering a typology opinion.

Any reaction besides "I disagree with your typing of me" that goes into namecalling and suggesting someone lacks intellect into the matter is out of line and ridiculous and there is absolutely no defense for it.

Well you can keep thinking that if you wanna be self righteous about it. You do you hun

 

[Red Memories]

Well you can keep thinking that if you wanna be self righteous about it. You do you hun

I mean, aren't you also being righteous about your own point of view? Because you're acting as if LL deserved the response and should've saw it coming just because enneagram has a connection to childhood. That's ridiculous. No one deserves to have someone sitting here doubting their intellect JUST BECAUSE they suggested a slightly different type than your own self-assessment.

I think though obviously this discussion isn't going anywhere and there is not an entire picture here. I'll leave it at that.

 

[miss deceit]

I mean, aren't you also being righteous about your own point of view? Because you're acting as if LL deserved the response and should've saw it coming just because enneagram has a connection to childhood. That's ridiculous. No one deserves to have someone sitting here doubting their intellect JUST BECAUSE they suggested a slightly different type than your own self-assessment.

I think though obviously this discussion isn't going anywhere and there is not an entire picture here. I'll leave it at that.

I'm not acting as if anyone deserved anything (I never actually really made a judgement on the LL/Lumi situation). I'm speaking about the wider picture in regards to typing other people in enneagram off the back of what happened.

 

[Jaguar]

Why is it the people who change their type as often as they change their underwear have an obsession with telling others what type they are? You look like an ass.

 

[Red Memories]

I'm not acting as if anyone deserved anything (I never actually really made a judgement on the LL/Lumi situation). I'm speaking about the wider picture in regards to typing other people in enneagram off the back of what happened.

Well there's this line here that can be drawn from some of your messages that sorta imply that you think her reaction is fair and okay since enneagram can be perceived that way and therefore a negative response should be taken into account or even expected. But I perceive you more as playing "devil's advocate" here and trying to show a different side. I am explaining my side and why I feel strongly about it not being okay. We obviously have some disagreements on that or what goes into being a member of a typology forum, or what it means to type someone on one. That's fine. But don't also come at me and call me self-righteous either.

To be clear, I learned most of what I originally learned and built on about typology from the user she just insulted. He is one of my best friends and I am very defensive of his feelings. I am naturally going to react more strongly to this in that realm as well. I do not like anyone insulting my friends for small things like that, especially when he has been quite open about struggling with feelings of worth and etc. I think perhaps she should have considered his feelings before she insulted his intelligence. So I guess we're a bit even eh?

 

[miss deceit]

Well there's this line here that can be drawn from some of your messages that sorta imply that you think her reaction is fair and okay since enneagram can be perceived that way and therefore a negative response should be taken into account or even expected. But I perceive you more as playing "devil's advocate" here and trying to show a different side. I am explaining my side and why I feel strongly about it not being okay. We obviously have some disagreements on that or what goes into being a member of a typology forum, or what it means to type someone on one. That's fine. But don't also come at me and call me self-righteous either.

To be clear, I learned most of what I originally learned and built on about typology from the user she just insulted. He is one of my best friends and I am very defensive of his feelings. I am naturally going to react more strongly to this in that realm as well. I do not like anyone insulting my friends for small things like that, especially when he has been quite open about struggling with feelings of worth and etc. I think perhaps she should have considered his feelings before she insulted his intelligence. So I guess we're a bit even eh?

I think her reaction is human, is what I will say. She could've considered his feelings as well sure. All I will say is that I fly in the face of everything you said in the second paragraph, so this conversation will probably end rather messy if it continues. I'd certainly drop this now on this forum, although if you wish to continue it further my private messages are always open